Talk:OR-7

Proper article name
As has been noted, the current name OR-7 seems more like the highway name Oregon Route 7, which he could well have crossed to get from where he was to where he is. Journey (wolf) is a redirect and possible new name. How about OR-7 (wolf)? —EncMstr (talk) 17:52, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I assume all possibilities include the following three: OR-7, OR-7 (wolf), Journey (wolf)? Seeming like a highway name itself does not necessitate disambiguation, but that would obviously change if "OR-7" is to become a disambiguation page or re-direct to Oregon Route 7. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:10, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I can see the confusion, but OR-7, and even OR7, is pretty well-associated with the wolf, not the road. The route is not called "OR-7"--more people are likely to call it "Highway 7" or "Oregon 7". I don't think OR-7 (wolf) is needed. I've added a hatnote and made OR7 and OR 7 disambiguation pages to the highway and wolf. I think leaving it as is is the best course and monitor to see if Journey (wolf) takes hold, then make OR-7 the primary redirect page instead of OR7. --Esprqii (talk) 18:19, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Great work, everyone! I have heard much about the wolf's travels on NPR, and I registered that he was referred to by a number, not a name (haven't heard the name "Journey"), as seemed proper to me, but being a word person and not a number person, I didn't remember he was "7" (BTW, a section on the other numbered wolves and/or the numbering system would be a great addition). Anyway, if most people who pay attention (not me) know that "OR-7" refers to this particular critter, we should definitely leave this where it is until/unless the "Journey" moniker gains traction. Valfontis (talk) 18:44, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I note with interest that Oregon Wild wanted to name the wolf to make him/it (Cal Fish and Wildlife says "it") "too famous to kill". Valfontis (talk) 19:35, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

"Too famous to kill"
Val brings up an interesting point (see above). This article needs to address the purpose of naming the wolf and how it relates to conservation efforts. This "journey" has received a lot of media attention and anthropomorphism ("looking for love", etc.), both of which are worth mentioning. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:40, 28 March 2012 (UTC) -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:16, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/03/us-lone-wolf-california-idUSTRE82203T20120303 -- Reminder: great article for background and conservation efforts

See also links?
Relevant enough for inclusion: Cascade Mountain Wolf, Northern Rocky Mountains Wolf, Southern Rocky Mountains Wolf, Subspecies of Canis lupus? I don't want to overdo the number of links, but who knew? Fascinating stuff. I am glad this article is receiving so much initial attention. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:19, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Image
Is the image of the alpha Imnaha wolf a substitute until a picture of OR-7 can be added to the infobox? The current image would be great for the Background section. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:22, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I debated whether it was too confusing to put in the infobox. You may be right that the background is a better place for it. Too bad that one image of OR-7 was not an ODFW picture. We know the AP loves to protect its copyright. --Esprqii (talk) 23:33, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅. Thanks. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:37, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I've now added a map that approximates the wolf route. Normally I would not put a map at the top of the infobox, but I needed to stick it somewhere. Please feel free to rearrange. Finetooth (talk) 23:10, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice map, Finetooth! I was about to look for an ODFW map or something until I saw yours. I wish we could upload the only photo of OR-7, but I've linked to it as an external link. Jsayre64   (talk)  13:15, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the map! -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:26, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

map update
Today's news suggests that Journey is back in Oregon and is still being tracked. Surprisingly, it says that California updated his position daily on the web. Finetooth, is it hard for you to update the current map? I looked a little, but did not find the raw data used to make it. —EncMstr (talk) 00:03, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

September 2013 update
…found a home? http://www.opb.org/news/article/wandering-wolf-or-7-appears-to-have-found-a-home/ -Pete (talk) 20:12, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

"Oregon wolf OR-7 appears to have found a mate after 3-year journey"
-- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:01, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
 * http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2014/05/oregon_wolf_or-7_finds_a_mate.html
 * Thanks, I saw that story too. Hope that tracking collar holds up a bit longer! --Esprqii (talk) 18:46, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Book?
I reverted this addition, but wanted to post here as something to investigate. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:35, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks AB. I added a sentence with an RS. Finetooth (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:32, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Nothing this addition, which I revert for poor sourcing/formatting, but something to look into... --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:52, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Sources of informations (Parents of OR-7)
- "Remembering OR4: A Eulogy for a Wolf : Arguably the most influential wolf in America was killed last week. Who was he?" (Article about OR-4M, the father of OR-7 and also the first dominant breeding male of the Oregon State in modern years) [The article dates from April 11, 2016 and was written by Wes Siler]

- "Oregon Wolf Program Update : February, 2011" [For OR-7M, OR-8F and OR-9M weights and informations]

- "Oregon Wolf Conservation and Management Plan : 2011 Annual Report" (Under "Table 3. List of samples submitted for analysis to University of Idaho Laboratory for Conservation and Ecological Genetics in 2011).

It says this : "Wildlife Unit (1) When Collected (2) Sample Origin (3) Results (4) : Imnaha (1) February (2) OR7 (3) Progeny of OR2 and OR4 (4)."

Gimly24 (talk) 00:48, 20 August 2021 (UTC)