Talk:Occipital bun

Sources?

 * Not a source, but one of Stephen Baxter's novels makes reference to a character's occipital knot - which is why it's taken me so long to find this article. David 09:15, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Not that it's a valid source, but someone on slashdot made a comment about this today. Which is what brought me here. He commented about the occipital bun and strong supra-orbital ridge; since I have both, I got curious. Zuiram 10:55, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

shit, i also got this damn strong supra-orbital ridge, but not sure about the occipital bun, can you put a picture of this?

Basques, Finns, and Sami
Why isn't the frequency of this sourced on these people? Whenever I google this trait in conjunction with them, I pretty much get text from this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.205.192.144 (talk) 01:56, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I've removed the following text till it can be cited:
 * They are still found fairly often among Basque, Sami and Finn individuals. Bushmen from South Africa and Australian aborigines often have occipital buns also.
 * -MerryTricia (talk)

Neanderthal
Some online sources seems to indicate that Neanderthal's had occipital buns. though the buns may be of a different type than the human variety. Please add if you find a good source. - MerryTricia (talk) 23:01, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

article
The developmental and evolutionary significance of occipital bunning: A comparative morphometric study, by Robert Franciscus and Miranda E Karban, delivered at 82nd annual AAPA meeting. available at academia. -- But this might be considered a primary source.213.109.221.220 (talk) 07:38, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Species
I would like to reword the third sentence in the first paragraph, changing it to: "It is found among archaic Homo species (including Neanderthals) as well as Upper Pleistocene Homo Sapiens and present-day human populations." Acl370 (talk) 18:05, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Occipital buns in Neanderthals
I would like to expand on the topic of the evolutionary purposes of the occipital bun in Neanderthals. This would include theories that hypothesize the occipital bun as an adaptation to an enlarged visual cortex, and the occipital bun as a counterweight to the Neanderthal's heavier facial features. I would make this a separate section entitled "Occipital buns in Neanderthals." Acl370 (talk) 18:11, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Homology
I would like to describe the (lack of) homology between Neanderthals and Homo sapiens in terms of occipital buns. This would be in reference to the study by Lieberman, Pearson, and Mowbray. I would make this a separate section entitled "Homology." Acl370 (talk) 18:15, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Occipital buns in Homo sapiens
I would like to describe the occurrence of occipital buns in Homo sapiens, particularly modern Homo sapiens. This would include the classes of occipital buns (type I- smooth, type II- crest form, and type III- spine form) and some common symptoms. I would make this a separate section entitled "Occipital buns in Homo sapiens." Acl370 (talk) 18:19, 16 May 2022 (UTC)