Talk:Open access in Italy

Draft by User:Filippo Morsiani
More content could be added to this article from the draft User:Filippo Morsiani/Open access in Italy, based on a Unesco GOAP report. -- Oa01 (talk) 19:36, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Open access repositories in Italy
A list of open access repositories in Italy was deleted from this article on 9 April 2018, and a revised list also deleted later the same day. -- Oa01 (talk) 10:02, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * A revised version of the list was again deleted on 10 April 2018. -- Oa01 (talk) 14:59, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Additional discussion on the matter can be found here. -- Oa01 (talk) 13:05, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Proposed text is below, to be added as a section within the article Open access in Italy. Discussion of selection criteria here. -- Oa01 (talk) 10:06, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

There are a number of collections of scholarship in Italy housed in digital open access repositories. They contain journal articles, book chapters, data, and other research outputs that are free to read.


 * Strongly oppose per WP:NOTLINKFARM and WP:NOTDIR. Ajf773 (talk) 09:07, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Italian open access journals
A list of Italian open access journals was deleted from this article on 9 April 2018. A revised version of the list was deleted on 10 April 2018. -- Oa01 (talk) 14:55, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * A revised version of the list was again deleted on 10 April 2018. -- Oa01 (talk) 14:59, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Additional discussion: User talk:Oa01#Indiscriminate lists. -- Oa01 (talk) 12:40, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Examples of titles were again deleted on 26 April 2018. -- Oa01 (talk) 11:51, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Proposed text is below. Discussion of selection criteria here. -- Oa01 (talk) 11:51, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Among the open access journals produced in Italy are the following titles:


 * Annali dell'Istituto Superiore di Sanità
 * Confluenze
 * Conservation Science in Cultural Heritage
 * Haematologica
 * International Journal of Speleology
 * JLIS.it
 * International Journal of Speleology
 * JLIS.it


 * Journal of Early Modern Studies
 * Journal of Formalized Reasoning
 * Phytopathologia Mediterranea
 * Ricerche di Pedagogia e Didattica
 * Statistica
 * Statistica

Request for comments on image gallery of journal covers
Does this image gallery of academic journal covers adhere to Image use policy? -- Oa01 (talk) 11:52, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No. Far as I can see, this is just an eclectic selection of covers. Why these and not others? Of course, an exhaustive collection of all covers of all open access journals would be even less appropriate. See also WP:NOTGALLERY. Fails WP:IG ("illustrate aspects of a subject that cannot be easily or adequately described by text or individual images"). I also note that two of the three images in the current gallery don't have articles here and given that neither is included in any selective databases and therefore fail WP:NJournals (not to mention WP:GNG), articles will not likely be created any time soon. ---Randykitty (talk) 12:26, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The covers don't add anything substantial to the article and they don't seem to meet the contextual significance criterion of WP:FAIRUSE. They shouldn't be in the article. CapitalSasha ~ talk 04:31, 22 May 2018 (UTC) Sorry, now that it has been pointed out to me I realize that the images are not fair-use images so that policy doesn't apply. I still think they add nothing substantial to the article and should be removed. CapitalSasha ~ talk 18:33, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes. The three images I see there today aren't "fair use" images, they're on Commons, with appropriate licenses, so WP:FAIRUSE doesn't apply. Maproom (talk) 07:53, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Fairuse is fine perhaps, but the gallery is completely eclectic and doesn't really serve any encyclopedic purpose. --Randykitty (talk) 08:02, 26 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes, the images in the gallery are freely licensed, so they are compliant with the Free licenses section of the Image use policy. Diego (talk) 07:48, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * And is it encyclopedic to show a bunch of more or less randomly selected journal covers? --Randykitty (talk) 07:49, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * That's not the question asked in the RfC. To keep this discussion focused, that would be best discussed at another thread. Diego (talk) 07:53, 31 May 2018 (UTC)


 * According to Image use policy, the images are appropriately licensed for use on Wikipedia, so that aspect is fine. According to the WP:IG subsection of that policy, galleries should not be indiscriminate collections of images. I don't see any good inclusion criteria for this gallery. Why only journal covers? Are there not examples of open access images, book and source code in Italy? What would the inclusion criteria be? I understand the desire to provide images and concrete examples of such resources. But based on the WP:IG policy, I would recommend to get rid of the gallery here and host it on Wikimedia commons, which is made for such collections of images. --Mark viking (talk) 17:19, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I just don't see the point. They don't add anything to the article. So, can we have that? For freely-licensed images, yes. Should we? No. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:39, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Given the repeated attempts of to remove the RfC template of this discussion (and opening another one just below as if this one has concluded that such galleries are fine), I have posted a request for closure at RfCl. --Randykitty (talk) 19:57, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Request for comments on choice of images
Per Wikipedia's Manual of Style for choosing illustrations, are these images pertinent to this article? -- Oa01 (talk) 08:10, 3 June 2018 (UTC)


 * ????? You're already opening yet another RfC, even though the previous one has not concluded yet? (And at this point is trending against inclusion of any gallery, so the question of which images to include becomes moot). --Randykitty (talk) 09:28, 3 June 2018 (UTC)