Talk:PKP Pecheneg machine gun

Copyright Violation?
See this "revision as of 15:43, 23 July 2009" diff seems word for word the same as here (world.guns.ru) website.--220.101.28.25 (talk) 02:54, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree, this is not a quotation, it's just a blatant copy of that site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.82.206.20 (talk) 08:52, 1 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Still a fairly obvious copy-paste of Maxim Popenker's text after all these years so I've flagged it. --Vometia (talk) 11:37, 10 June 2019 (UTC)


 * My reply to the copyvio page:
 * The author of the original text has emailed to say he is happy to be quoted verbatim as long as he is properly cited and sourced. I have asked if he has a handy link to his terms and conditions. --Vometia (talk) 15:11, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * So in theory everything is probably fine as it seems it was properly cited etc but things being what they are I suppose we need something a bit more formal than "it's okay because somebody emailed me to say so".
 * Hopefully it'll be resolved soon. --Vometia (talk) 15:14, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Venezuela
Unless I'm missing something, how does the Guardian article state that Venezuela is going to replace its MAGs with PKPs in 2018? It's just some article about UK weapons exports. Thom430 (talk) 09:57, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 13 October 2017

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The result of the move request was: not moved. If you want to try this again in future it would be worthwhile dropping notes at the firearms and milhist wikiprojects to try and get some more commentators who are knowledgeable about the topic. Jenks24 (talk) 09:22, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

PKP Pecheneg machine gun → PKP Pecheneg – Of all the variations of this machine guns name, I believe "PKP Pecheneg" is the one that is the most accurate and unambiguous, without being excessively long (which I feel "PKP Pecheneg machine gun" is). Thanks, RadiculousJ (talk) 14:02, 13 October 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:10, 19 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Oppose – the current title is not excessively long, and is much better at pointing out what the topic of the article is. Dicklyon (talk) 04:55, 15 October 2017 (UTC)


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Who Makes It?
Who created the PKP Pecheneg machine gun, and who manufacturers it? Does it have an origin? Does it have a creator... Some unanswered questions... Stevenmitchell (talk) 09:10, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

"PKP Pecheneg" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect PKP Pecheneg. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 December 3 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Loafiewa (talk) 18:43, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

10 000 rounds per hour
I have seen this figure being thrown around in tertiary sources in Russian, but it looks a lot like there was some kind of a mix-up. Many more reserved sources cite the much more realistic 1000 rounds per hour guaranteed w/o performance degradation (including the Russian version of this article).

Here are the reasons it makes sense to change this figure to 1000:

1. The figure in this Engiish article is not cited anyway. And the Russian page says 1000.

2. The Russian page does not cite this fact as well, but it has links to the website of the gun's designers, TsNIITochMash (archived), as well as to the website of the gun's manufacturers, the Degtyarev plant (ZID). Both of them do not include the "rounds per hour w/o degradation" figure at all.

3. Gun historian Max Popenker's Modern Firearms website, although a private unofficial resource, is well-respected in the field, especially in regards to Russian firearms. Its article on Pecheneg says 1000.

I will change the figure provisionally, since it is not central at all to the article and its subject and, barring real documented combat experience, is more in the realm of manufacturer marketing points. Which, on Wikipedia, calls for conservative approach.

AyeBraine (talk) 10:46, 17 July 2024 (UTC)