Talk:Pac-12 Football Championship Game

Logo
The vote has concluded and the logo for the inaugural game has been selected. Now it's just a question of waiting until the conference releases a generic logo that can be used in this article. --Kevin W./Talk•CFB uniforms/Talk 19:00, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Division Champions
Champions win something. They are the best at it. "Champion" was used for marketing purposes. The conference did not want to sell advertising as the game between a champion and a runner-up. USC was not prohibited from winning the division. They were prohibited from post-season play. In 2011, the runner-up representated the division, because the champion was ineligible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.112.11.202 (talk) 17:48, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Division Champions are the titles, not just as representatives to the Championship Games as indicated by Pacific-12 Conference. Ucla90024 (talk) 05:59, 20 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Pac-12 spokesman Dave Hirsch : "Our division champions participate in the championship game". From the Pac-12 Conference Media Guide: "The inaugural Pac-12 Championship Football Game will take place Friday, December 2 at 8 p.m. ET/5 p.m. PT and telecast to a national audience on FOX. The Championship game will match the winner of the North Division vs. the winner of the South Division." Hirsch also said in 2011: "USC can not own that title. USC can say that it finished first, but not champion." Ucla90024 (talk) 17:56, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

South Division title

 * Per Ted Miller's November 11, 2011 ESPN article What do we call UCLA?, quoting Pac-12 Conference spokesman Dave Hirsch, USC can not claim the 2011 title. "USC can say it finished "first," if it beats UCLA. And the Bruins can call themselves "champions" even if it loses (the last regular season game to USC)" Ucla90024 (talk) 17:30, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Teams performance after the game

 * This is an article on the Pacific-12 Football Championship Game. What the teams do after the game have no bearing on the game. What the SEC do with their page has nothing to do with Pac-12 or Big Ten. Big Ten page has no such item. We are only conern with Pac-12. Information about the individual teams are reflected on the teams' pages,on the bowl games, and the Pac-12 football season page. That is enough. Ucla90024 (talk) 19:31, 26 December 2012 (UTC)


 * The Pac-12 conference has a contractual obligation to send its champion to the BCS Champsionship game or the Rose Bowl game. Beginning with the 2011 season, the conference created the championship game as the definitive mechanism for this process.  Historically, the Rose Bowl game participant (not conference champion) was determined by a variety of methods in cases including when teams with identical conference records did not necessarily play one another in a given season, played to a tie, votes have been taken to award the Rose Bowl participation, a progressive series of tie-breaker rules has been invoked, and teams with identical conference records have been identified as (co-)champions of that season.


 * The current onfield purpose of the Pac-12 championship game is to create a single, definitive, league-wide champion and place them into either the BCS Championship game or Rose Bowl game. Hence the resulting outcome of the game's purpose is definitionally relevant to the article.  Please stop blanking both sections without comment and allow consensus.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.216.228.112 (talk) 21:21, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Bowl results have nothing to do with th Championship game. Championship games will be played regardless of the outcomes of the Bowl games. Represetatives to bowl games were not reason for the Championship game. Long before representatives were selected to the Rose Bowl games and to the BCS Bowl games, which will end with the 2013 season. Ucla90024 (talk) 21:32, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Team colors in results table
I've made a change to the SEC Championship Game and Big 12 Championship Game pages that I'd like to make here as well; using team colors only for the winning team in the results table (rather than using team colors for both teams). I've had difficulty reading these tables, as coloring both teams yields low readability; using colors just for the winning team is much clearer. Comments welcome, thanks. Dmoore5556 (talk) 04:55, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Table updated. Dmoore5556 (talk) 02:19, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:ACC Championship Game which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 23:50, 28 April 2024 (UTC)