Talk:Palatino

Colllaboration?
Is it true that font extensions were made in collaboration with a Japanese actor and singer? It's not a mistake? If so, maybe someone can comment a bit more on this? --130.216.30.233 (talk) 03:52, 13 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Is it that hard to do a web search? The top two hits on English-language Google for "Akira Kobayashi" reference the type designer. Apparently there is an actor/singer with the same name. Somebody could add a page for the type designer, he's certainly noteworthy enough. Thomas Phinney (talk) 21:26, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Hot metal?
What the hell is "hot metal"? Kent Wang 23:09, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)


 * See Linotype machine. Also, it'd be nice if the article included font samples as images so that people who don't have the fonts can see what they look like. sneakums 15:50, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

"hot metal" is the form printing type took for over 500 hundred years. you may want to use the google and inform yourself prior to asking such emphatic, yet elemental questions. User:HotType918 —Preceding undated comment added 22:13, 18 December 2013 (UTC)


 * No, "hot metal” refers to the machines that set type with molten metal such as Linotype and Monotype, invented in the late 1800s, and widely used for a bit less than a century. It was preceded by "cold metal" type (the only option from the 1450s to the 1870s, and still relevant at least midway into the 20th century). Thomas Phinney (talk) 19:05, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Redwall?
Is the comment about Redwall really necessary? I mean, it's been used in zillions of books, and the Harry Potter series (in the realm of fantasy that is, although I'm not 100% sure). It just seems unjustified given the huge popularity of this font almost everywhere. Leon... 05:25, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

When was Palatino created?
If I use the Microsoft typography "FontProperties" extension on the Palatino Linotype OpenType font which ships with MS Office these days, the font claims to have been designed in 1950 by Zapf, not 1948...?--feline1 17:00, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

One more difference: Palatino and Book Antiqua
Actually, Book Antiqua was my favorite font. But I read, that Palatino was a typical books' font and so I looked it up in the registered-fonts-list. I found it very similar to Book Antiqua and so I searched for it and found this article. Whilst checking some paragraphs for differences, I found out that the full-stop of Palatino is much smaller than that of Book Antiqua. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.172.244.44 (talk) 11:10, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

notdef glyph on Palatino Linotype
Can someone define the notdef glyphs in Palatino Linotype which has four/4 styles. 121.164.146.185 (talk) 02:02, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

" Zapf revised Palatino for Linotype..."
I'd like to link "Linotype" to an article but I don't know whether this refers to the company or the machine. Could someone fix it?


 * The former. Well, actually its successor company, but close enough. Thomas Phinney (talk) 21:22, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Macintosh and DTP

 * In 1984 Palatino was one of the typefaces originally included by Apple Computer in the Macintosh. In the early days of desktop publishing it gained great popularity until it began to be replaced by Times Roman.

That's not how I remember it! In 1984 the Mac came with bitmap fonts designed for Apple, all named for cities. The first LaserWriter (1985) had Times, Helvetica, Courier and Symbol; the LaserWriter Plus (1986) added Palatino, Zapf Chancery, Zapf Dingbats, Avant Garde, Bookman, Helvetica Narrow, New Century Schoolbook. I started to see Palatino everywhere when people got tired of Times (and found that they could change their editor's default font). —Tamfang (talk) 01:14, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Giovanni Battista Palatino
Correct spelling of the name and a little info found here http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/439248/Giovanni-Battista-Palatino — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.178.8.167 (talk) 11:55, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

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Proposed mergers
Palatino really describes a large family of fonts that are closely connected together: Palatino proper (with a robust design intended for "commercial" printing on bad paper, like newspaper advertising), Aldus (more delicate for higher-quality book printing), Michelangelo (titling capitals) and Sistina (effectively just a bold weight of Michelangelo). Zapf's biographer Jerry Kelly has described the family as one group: "these related fonts made Palatino the largest type family based on classic renaissance forms at the time." For branding purposes they were given separate names, but they're very closely connected. This is discussed by Zapf's friend Lawson (here also) and you can see on Flickr a Stempel sales brochure depicting them as a loosely linked family (as on the cover). Zapf himself was annoyed at the fact that his designs were given separate names, since he thought Aldus should just be called Palatino Book and didn't think it had much to do with the work of Aldus Manutius.

I think it's confusing having these fonts in separate articles when they are connected and intended to complement one another so closely. We have articles on Aldus and Sistina, but there's really no sources discussing them independently (really nothing I can find on Sistina in particular - I tried my best before I decided to propose this merger!) and having separate articles means that when you click over to them you're essentially rereading what you already have seen on the (much higher-traffic) Palatino article. For other similar families such as Centaur, Bembo, Hoefler Text, Perpetua and Iowan Old Style, their complementary titling capitals are just mentioned in the main article.

I accordingly propose that the Aldus and Sistina articles be merged into Palatino. Blythwood (talk) 06:12, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

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