Talk:Parasite single

Much of this article is written from a pov of view of someone defending against the negative connotations of the label.

I did some mild editing which did use "weasel words" in the sense of "some people think" type language, but the articl needs a masive rewrite. The views detailed need to be written in the context of arguments people have made with sources. Rather, the article as it is written is clearly a strongly motivated "defensive argument" for reasons people with such labels should not be negatively judged. Whowever wrote these sections clearly misunderstand the nature of wikipedia. A phenomenon should be described, and cited differing views can be written, but it inappropriate for an article to argue for a point of view, especially in the manner this article does. I don't have enough information to rewrite it myself, and I am not an experienced enough editor to properly tag it, but I didn't see this general problem discussed in the talk page so far.

For example, before my edit there was a sentence of the form "Indeed, a spiritual rebellion was inevitable against a rapifly changing society that emphasizes economic competition over (other values) and enslavement of young people..."

It should be clear why such a sentence is wholly inappropriate for a wikipedia article. If someone wants to preserve the sentence, it needs to be re=written as the specific view of a notable commentator and properly cited rather just written as a "neutral fact" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.185.109.34 (talk) 06:22, 20 October 2022 (UTC) - This article makes two references to the "current difficult economic situation", contrary to the Wikipedia policy of using precise language to specify dates. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.55.50.248 (talk) 08:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Untitled
This article seems a bit unclear on two issues. First, if living with one's parents until one's early thirties is considered normal and rather traditional, why is a demographic term like "parasite singles" so common in public use? Second, is this primarily a matter of people being unable to move out or people who are making money and are just mooching off their parents - or are these distinct types? (by User:59.167.105.32)


 * Just because the word 'parasite' is used, it doesn't connotate an insulting remark.I know the Japanese culture quite well, and the 'laid back (mooching)' life style is condoned strongly, and is quite shameful. It is a matter or money. Even things like mortgage, extend for several generations. (by User:216.61.144.42)


 * Then the article should reflect this. I agree with the OP, the article is very negative while the term supposedly is not. ---

Lacking sources
I have tagged this article as unsourced. The lack of research in the vote for deletion page is convincing me that this topic is bullshit. There is nothing historically notable or unique about children living with their parents through their twenties or thirties, aside from the idea that it might violate popular stereotypes about Japanese society. Please demonstrate that this topic has historical and geographical significance. Shoehorn 19:50, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

- I was not under the impression that Wikipedia was primarily an encyclopedia of history. However, if the argument is that a new trend will not have historical impact from a future perspective, then it should be relatively clear that the aging of Japanese society will, in fact, have historical impact. And considering that the parasite singles phenomenon is one being primarily discussed and reported on in Japan, I find it suspect that "violation of popular stereotypes" is the motivation.210.160.15.16 21:50, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

- I believe significant updated information is available here: http://www.stat.go.jp/training/english/reseach/parasite_eng.pdf; unfortunately, I don't have the time or expertise to incorporate it myself in the article.

Geek freedom
It's such a beautiful life to be a parasite single, the only reason is that we prefer this life, instead of the hell of the no-geek people at work, all my friends are like that ( me included ), and we are not japanese, but french, more and more young people are like that in France. American films, japanese mangas, american tv shows, Mcdonald's and so on... young french love the globalization ( french who don't like the american or the globalization don't exist, this is a myth, or maybe some old guys in some little villages ). Allowed are the video games and the otaku life-style ! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.251.188.194 (talk) 10:06, 18 December 2006 (UTC).

Confucean values
It's hard to say without living in the context of confucean values. Look around Asian communities in America and Europe where family life includes 3 generations, from grand parents to grand children, living together or in close neighborhood. It's mutual care, benevolence and loyalty.

Takima (talk) 00:57, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

German denominations
Added a bit more info about the German denomination, the term Hotel Mama means the actual house/home of the parents including the hotel-like service that's implied to come with living there. Nesthocker is the actual term used for grown-up kids still living at (and at least partially off of) their parents.85.182.12.112 (talk) 17:19, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Paitrocínio
I believe the pun "Paitrocínio" may not belong to this article. Most of the times it reffers to a situation that is the precise opposite of a "Bamboccioni", Parasite Single and other terms used for adults living with parents, although usually having their own income. Paitrocínio is used for college young adults who left their parents home, although continuing to receive money from them, specially when this is their sole, or at least major, source of money. There is clearly an inverted concept in this word. I will change its meaning in the article, but it opens a debate wheter or not it should be here. 189.61.167.107 (talk) 13:26, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Worldwide view missing
While this is amusing, it does not reflect a worldwide view. Many studies and journalists here in the US have documented the same phenomenon, although maybe we don't refer to it with such an apropos term. In the US, the trend is that the younger generations is delaying marriage and delaying parenting. Other cultural causes include the recession, the increases in college tuition, the increased age for adult children to be included on their parent's insurance plans and the expense of a new home purchase. The editors could maybe include a paragraph or just links to these other issues. 67.44.209.219 (talk) 15:37, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Entire Causes Sections is Opinion
The entire 'Causes' section seems to be someone's non-expert opinion. There's no evidence given for why this interpretation on 'the boomer conflict' could be credible given in the text. Please find a source or remove what can't be justified. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 09:31, 20 March 2020 (UTC)