Talk:Pastel de nata

Pastel de Nata in Macau
I added information about the Chinese adaptations of pastel de nata in Macau and linked this to the Chinese-style egg tart article. Feel free to add or modify them. --JNZ 08:46, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Belem and their Publicists
It seems to me that this page is overly reliant on information emanating from the publicists/web copywriters for the Belem pastry shop. Could we not look for citations that are not from the people who claim to have created the pastry? It sounds just like every other hoary food myth/secret recipe marketing story I've ever heard. I'd like to see a citation from a 19th century book that supported the publicists' stories. THJS 21:31, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
 * AFAIK, they don't claim to be the creators of the pastel de Belém, they claim that they learned the original recipe from the convents and kept it a secret ever since. There have been many newspieces about them over the years, since they were the first shop to sell them, back in 1837, and this was never put into question. Just because it's a marketing bait, doesn't mean it's false. Also, there are many recipes for these pastéis, but if you compare theirs to the competition, you might just believe that theirs is the original recipe ;) 0cm 23:05, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Why do they keep saying "cream tarts" when it's extremely obvious that those are FRUIT tarts? Or is cream suddenly dark blue? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.144.68.238 (talk) 02:32, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Why do you keep trying to act all tough when it's extremely obvious that you're a FRUIT cake? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.152.241.160 (talk) 07:09, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

pasteis de belem are not pasteis de nata. pasteis de belem is only manufactured by one pastry shop. only 3 persons in the world known the secret recepie and they work in that pastry. DO NOT CONFUSE WITH PASTEIS DE NATA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.69.38.173 (talk) 17:18, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

PASTEIS DE BELEM IS NOT THE SAME THING AS PASTEIS DE NATA
PASTEIS DE BELEM ARE DIFFERENT FROM PASTEIS DE NATA, YES THEY LOOK THE SAME BUT THAT'S JUST IT. THEY ARE DIFFERENT PRODUCTS WITH DIFFERENT INGREDIENTS AND DIFFERENT WAYS TO MANUFACTURE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.69.38.173 (talk) 17:14, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The name of the café is "Casa dos Pasteis de Belém" or "House of Pastries of/in Belém" different recipe or not, they are made of cream. Yes, people say "pastel de nata" referring to the pastry generically or "pastel de belem" when refering to the Café or it's pastries. the rest of it is just myth. Unless, of course you know of a published source that says otherwise?Galf (talk) 20:16, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually he is correct. Pasteis de Belem and Pasteis de Nata are two different things. Pasteis de Belem is the name given to the original tarts, made from the original recipe. They can only be bought in that pastry shop in Belém. All other custard tarts sold in all Portugal and world are called Pasteis de Nata, which are copies from the original ones, and each coffee/pastry shop has it's own recipe.Tacv (talk) 16:07, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

History
According to the Portuguese version of this article, the monestary closed in 1834, not in the 1820s. From 1834 to 1837, it was a sugar factory which sold the pastels (therefore negating the info in the English version that says the bakery was the first to sell the pastels). From the Portuguese version, it seems that the owner of the factory and the bakery were the same, a Brazilian immigrant in Portugal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eyesonbrazil (talk • contribs) 01:30, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Merge discussion
See Talk:Custard_tart. Thanks, JoeSperrazza (talk) 14:42, 21 March 2011 (UTC)