Talk:Penne alla vodka

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I really don't have anything to add specifically on this topic, but I would just like to express my interest in knowing why the flavor of the alcohol blends so well with the acidity of the tomatoes to make such a good sauce. I have an amateur interest in chemistry and would like to know more about what makes these two seemingly incongruous substances work so well with one another. Rhettoric 17:40, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
 * perhaps it's because alcohol helps oil and water mix. 69.203.73.99 (talk) 03:35, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I just want to note that the entire content of the main article almost certainly came from Paula, the alleged inventor's daughter. She's a law professor and a popular nationwide lecturer for BarBri. She tells the story almost word for word as stated in the article. It's a great story and it could well be true but this whole entry is based on a single source and without any corroboration... Mjgilbert 18:58, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

The alleged inventor may possibly have added his name without any particular basis to what is really a well-known dish, found in many cookbooks. Whether or not the srtory is true, there are 36,000 ghits. I've added a few sources. DGG (talk) 10:08, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Why is the Williams Sonoma story in a box? --66.10.132.251 (talk) 16:27, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I would like to add that the surge in popularity of the dish in 2020 originated on Instagram. Popularized in April 2020 after model Gigi Hadid posted the recipe for the dish on Instagram, leading to hundreds of recreations on TikTok. I am new to editing Wikipedia, and I just think it would be relevant to feature considering the explosion of the dish on TikTok. https://www.insider.com/gigi-hadid-recipes-instagram-spicy-vodka-sauce-banana-bread — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kayleesettle (talk • contribs) 02:54, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

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Date of Creation
As I enjoyed this dish in Genova (Genoa) in 1979, the article's one assertion that it was created in the 1980s is absurd. Abenr (talk) 13:31, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Original Recipe
I was just wondering if, since the true origin of the dish seems to be unknown (or at least disputed), the recipe here should be portrayed as the true original. It obviously is if Luigi Franzese is the inventor, but otherwise, it's not.El Whizzo (talk) 07:25, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I seriously question the validity of including a recipe at all. I believe it's generally frowned upon as un-wikipedian, to have a specific recipe listed, instead of giving a general gestalt as to what typical recipe might entail.
 * — Kaz (talk) 04:44, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Agree with Kaz. Have removed it as per WP:NOTRECIPE. Bon appetite! Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi  09:25, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Lol at the snobby use of gestalt, which serves no purpose whatsoever. Just post a recipe… 2600:1006:B00B:FD9E:1441:2970:9479:28E6 (talk) 05:25, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

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Popularity in Italy and elsewhere
The article as currently worded suggests (but does not say explicitly) that penne alla vodka are out of fashion in Italy, but remain in fashion in the US. It would be nice to have some evidence for this. On Google Books, I see no evidence that they have dropped out of fashion in Italian-language books. They were especially popular from about 1978-1990, became less popular from 1990-2005, but since 2007, they've been more popular than in the 1980s..

It would also be useful to have reference from commentators in Italy either criticizing or praising the dish. --Macrakis (talk) 21:27, 8 May 2022 (UTC)


 * It was never popular among reputable Italians to begin with. Just like the supposed magical friendship between Italy and Russia… 🙄 2600:1006:B00B:FD9E:1441:2970:9479:28E6 (talk) 05:28, 14 September 2023 (UTC)