Talk:Perry Ellis

Untitled
The brand and the person should really be the subject of separate articles. Daniel Case 16:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Cause of death
I have removed most of the following paragraph:
 * Perry Ellis died in May 1986 of viral encephalitis (an AIDS related disease), as stated in the NY Times obituary.

for the following reasons: Please find a reliable source if adding further details to the current content. --Mirokado (talk) 23:09, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The listverse.com ref is a blog hosted by WordPress. WordPress hosts content self-published by individuals, which this reference seems to be, which are not reliable sources. The information contained in the WordPress (listverse.com) ref is itself unsourced.
 * The removed content misrepresents the NYT article, which says "The hospital, in a brief statement, said Mr. Ellis died at 1:30 A.M. of viral encephalitis, an inflammation of the brain, after having slipped into a coma several days ago." It makes no mention of AIDS.
 * I reworded the sentence to clearly show the different references and added a source from a reputable newspaper, the Sun Sentinel, which does make mention of AIDS, which says "This is unlike the philosophy of the firm`s then-management in 1986, when Perry Ellis died from AIDS-related complications and the company denied he had AIDS." Supertheman  ( talk  ) 01:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the prompt response and careful update. --Mirokado (talk) 20:46, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

John Meyer of Norwich
This is a womens' clothing company, formerly sportswear company in New York, referred to in the Biography section. I can't create a viable stub on the spur of the moment and there is no plausible target for a redirect, but here are a few links I found while looking for details: --Mirokado (talk) 15:37, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The Day article mentioning a name change and takeover by W. R. Grace and Company
 * John Meyer of Norwich record at the US Patent and Trademark Office, showing that the trademark passed through various hands and is now owned by John Meyer, Inc.

Middle Class Upbringing
Owning a coal and oil company in 40's/50's would accommodate much, much, much more than a "middle class" lifestyle, especially with the predominant use of oil and coal as energy sources during those periods (and even the decades prior to). That being said, I think this line should be omitted because it sounds like a Romeny ad (I hate using current events as a catch phrase).

24.138.105.38 (talk) 22:40, 1 November 2012 (UTC)