Talk:Pet monkey

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From http://www.online-literature.com/spyri/willis-the-pilot/10/ but not indicated whether fact or fiction:


 * When the cavalcade arrived there, all the family, with the exception of Ernest and Frank, were still asleep. The first thing they did was to clothe the creature [chimpanzee] they had captured in a sailor's pantaloons and jacket, with which he seemed rather pleased, and the result of this operation was, that he began to assume a less ferocious aspect, and behave more respectfully towards his captors. All the family had sat down to breakfast, when Fritz and Jack, taking him by the hands, led him gravely into the gallery. A cord was attached to his legs, allowing him to walk, but was so arranged that he could not run.


 * "He has, without doubt, been on board some ship, wrecked on the coast," said Wolston, "for I recollect having read that his kindred are only found in Western Africa and the adjacent islands; do you not recognize him, Willis, to belong to the Nelson, like the plank of the other day?"

From article about the extinction of dodo birds, www.pbs.org/odyssey/odyssey/ 20031119_log_transcript.html:


 * However, it was the indirect effects caused by animals introduced by humans that had the greatest influence of their population. The Dutch brought with them cattle, deer, chickens, dogs, cats, pigs, and monkeys and allowed them all to turn feral. Each of these species had effects on the island's ecosystem. It was the monkeys and pigs that had the largest impact on the dodo, wreaking havoc on young birds and eggs.


 * Having evolved without any native mammalian predators, the dodo couldn't fly and also lacked any other means of defending itself from predation. Although the adult dodos were better equipped to deal with predators because of their large size, they were unable to defend their eggs and chicks, and one by one, their crafty enemies pilfered the dodos' nests . 

Related as fact, not fiction, at http://www.scripsit.com/journal/Archive-01-02-03.html"


 * At dinner tonight, the table next to ours (just behind me) was occupied by a foursome from D.C., including one gentleman [who] served aboard submarines and had interesting stories to tell. This, to the best of my recollection, is one of those stories.


 * After joining the Navy and before being assigned to his first sub, the sailor adopted a tiny monkey as a pet. The monkey fit inside a coffee cup but grew rapidly, although it never got very big. The sailor had a small Navy uniform made for it and took it with him everywhere, including aboard his first submarine.


 * A sailor's first duty aboard a submarine is to spend time in each compartment learning everybody's job, so that should a someone be killed or incapacitated, any other sailor can perform his job. The monkey, of course, accompanied the sailor through these duties. At the end of this course each compartment's commander tested the sailor and, when the tests were passed, the sailor was awarded a "double dolphin," the submariner's breast patch showing a sub's conning tower flanked by facing dolphins.


 * The sailors had their own form of graduation ceremony. At the next port (or perhaps their home port), a small Scottish town, the sailors took over a pub. The new submariner was given a large glass into which each of the others poured a measure of whatever he was drinking: beer, whiskey, rum, wine, liqueur, soda, etc. They dropped the double dolphin into the cup. The new submariner was expected to empty the glass in one long gulp, catching his double dolphin in his teeth. Since the monkey had been through the same training, a small cup of the horrible mixture was provided for it, too. The new sailor emptied his cup and caught his double dolphin. The monkey, after a few sniffs, emptied his cup too.

From a paper on the American Revolution at http://www.americanrevolution.org/flohr2.html:


 * This time, Flohr was on La Neptune [a ship] together with a large number of parakeets, more than 40 monkeys, and assorted other living and stuffed-and-mounted creatures - souvenirs of almost three years in the New World.

'''From a paper Man and a Half: Essays in Pacific Anthropology and Ethnobiology in Honour of Ralph Bulmer, edited by A. Pawley. at http://www.hawaii.edu/oceanic/rotuma/os/howsel/17animals.html''':


 * [8] Monkeys are not present on Rotuma, although in the past there is at least one instance in which a Rotuman sailor brought back a monkey as a pet. Monkeys are ambiguous in their means of locomotion and not readily classified within the Rotuman schema. [back to text]

VfD debate link
This article was moved from Sailor monkey after this VFD debate. Sjakkalle (Check!)  08:08, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Unsourced and biased section
I don't feel too great about the section called "Greatest Pets". Not only is it completely unsourced it is also clearly biased and does not acknowledge the argument of cruelty for having undomesticated animals, whose needs are difficult to meet in a home. 86.21.244.26 (talk) 12:11, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Hmmm
This article could use a better name. Sailor monkeys wasn't too awful, but I'd reckon we can do better than "Monkeys in ships..." --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - &lt;*&gt; 17:33, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Seafaring simians? Kappa 17:40, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

pet monkeys?
this article is wholly about fictional situations and fictional characters, for some reason that just completely eludes me. I must have fallen asleep and missed by subway stop. Or else, maybe some material on - and this is just a tentative idea - keeping monkeys as pets might be germane? 76.109.129.235 (talk) 04:06, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

This article needs both information about keeping pet monkeys and the laws involved. I didn't come to here to read about fictional monkeys. And if I did, where the hell is the PG tips monkey? 90.199.226.75 (talk) 17:28, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

drawbacks of personal primate ownership
This article should have a section on the drawbacks of keeping a monkey as a pet, but I'm not sure how to go about writing it without sounding overly biased. https://www.lpzoo.org/primates-dont-make-good-pets https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2003/09/news-monkeys-primates-pets-trade-ethics/ https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10888700802536483 Daniypink (talk) 03:00, 19 September 2019 (UTC)