Talk:Peter Berresford Ellis

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This is a very good article, considering its youth. A few obvious questions remain, though... (1) Where does he live now? and in the years since he left Cornwall in 1968? (2) I assume he has taken up Irish citizenship, as he's entitled to. Am I right? (3) Why does the introductory paragraph privilege what he's known for in Cornwall? (4) The reader is still curious about his writings. What do his histories try to prove? What are his novels like? How have critics received him? (5) Is his surname actually Ellis, or Berresford Ellis?

Great start, however! QuartierLatin1968 17:51, 8 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I believe he lives in England now. Surname is "Ellis" - Berresford is a middle name.


 * He actually has some "fame" in all the Celtic countries. Not great fame, but he's famous in Ireland for Sister Fidelma, and in Scotland he's well known for his work on the 1820 rebellion. --MacRusgail 18:22, 13 August 2006 (UTC)


 * p.s. I confess I am not a fan of his novels. He has met mixed reactions.

Merge?
Of course. Tthe pseudonym article should be merged in with this one. --Sean Lotz 18:39, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge --MacRusgail 19:46, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Merge The pseudonym entry should be a part of this entry. DuncanHill 11:50, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Criticism
Mr Berresford Ellis' historical work has recieved some criticism from the academic community, might it be worth including this on this page ?


 * Of course. But this statement is in itself a bit one-sided. Some of the academic community agree with some of his assertions, and disagree with others. While some write him off as a crank, not all of them do. --MacRusgail 17:09, 7 January 2007 (UTC)


 * To say his work "has received some criticism" is hardly to say he's been called a crank! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.47.231 (talk) 00:27, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Some people have more or less said that, though.--MacRusgail (talk) 14:50, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


 * How is the academic community defined? Is it a body with only one opinion on any given topic? If not, how is disapproval by some of its members significant? Whathojeeves 00:07, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The academic community could be defined as those who can get their essays/papers published in peer-reviewed journals, work in tertiary education etc. --MacRusgail 12:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Ergo ... ? Whathojeeves 23:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


 * You're asking me a question which post-modernists have been scratching their heads over for twenty/thirty years at least (don't ask me to name all of them!) - however, there is a loosely linked group along the lines of what I describe above. Think employment, communication, qualification... --MacRusgail 16:05, 4 October 2007 (UTC)


 * PBE's books on the Celts are riddled with basic errors, alas - usually of spelling, but often also of careless expression (for instance refering to the Coligny Calendar as 'once thought to be the longest document in a Celtic language', in his 'The Druids' - no doubt he means 'in a continental Celtic language', as the statement as published is absurd.) I will have a look through a few of them and make a list of such errors, to be added to the page - if others agree that this is worthwhile. Some of them are shockingly bad. (I'm a professional Celticist, at a British University.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.160.169 (talk) 09:08, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm sure some of them are. The line about the Coligny Calendar should have been picked up by the editors - it's an obvious mistake, albeit one that can be rectified easily. That said, I have read some equally ignorant remarks in works from those in British or British-minded universities about the modern "Celtic" cultures. For example, in one of his books, the late great Prof. David Daiches, made the howler of claiming that the 19th century Bible was the first book to be published in Scottish Gaelic. In fact, there were several before that. Moreover, considering that there was no sharp break between "common" Gaelic, and Scottish Gaelic, Séon Carsuel's Foirm na n-Urrnuidheadh printed in 1567 qualifies in my view too. Daiches was a highly educated man, but ignorant of the literature in Scotland's other language - I don't entirely blame him, but the British education system which has tended to ignore such things.


 * Hopefully as the British project continues to disintegrate, we shall begin to see more and more balanced studies of the modern "Celtic" cultures, that will not be from a purely Anglocentric perspective. --MacRusgail (talk) 12:40, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

May i say that Mr E has done a more indepth study in the cletic language and has admitted to me he has a bias, but to pass him off as a 'crank' is merly insulting as his extentisive knowledge keeps widening. A couple of gramitical mistakes have happened to the greats, so dont fault him entirely upon that for goodness sake - a credible source —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.232.97.0 (talk) 03:45, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I've only read "Celt and Saxon" but as I read it it became obvious not only was its narrative extremely partial, but as Mr Ellis' grasp of the historical facts was, at best, questionable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thelzdking (talk • contribs) 11:36, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * In line with WP:NPOV}}, any criticism should be balanced, reflecting the views (positive and negative) of reviewers. These views should come from reliable Sources - if there are academic reviews critical of his work, they should be included.  Wikipedia is not the place for editors to add in their own criticisms: that would be Original Research [[WP:NOR.Martinlc (talk) 19:55, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

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I plan to enact WP:BLP powers on this article if the prose cannot be attributed to a reliable source in the next 24 hours or so. As it stands, effectively 90%+ of the article could be trimmed back, and users restoring unsourced content could be blocked, so I'd rather avoid this and I'm being somewhat courteous and liberal with the rules and asking that regulars here get hunting asap. --Jza84 | Talk  13:48, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I've removed all unsourced material and left the skeleton version of the page in. Please cite your sources to avoid being at the mercy of WP:BLP. Please also do not restore unsourced material per that guideline too. Good luck. --Jza84 | Talk  17:40, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

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education
(move text to bottom of Talk page) Daicaregos (talk) 11:24, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi all, i have made some amendments to his education - i have found sources that cite that he graduated with a celtic studies degree from the NELP (Now University of East London) in 1989, and that he was awarded a D.Litt in 2006, but i haven't found anything to back up his links to the Brighton college of Art. Does anybody have anything on this? Best Darigan (talk) 11:08, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

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