Talk:Peter Jukes

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Ahem.

THEATER

 * Abel Barebone (1987) and Shadowing the Conqueror (1988) premiered at the Traverse Theatre during the Edinburgh Festival, http://www.doollee.com/PlaywrightsJ/jukes-peter.html
 * MATADOR, West End Premiere, Queens' Theatre, Drury Lane. Wrote the book- http://broadwayworld.com/bwidb/sections/shows/index.php?var=2795

TV
Germany http://www.filmevona-z.de/filmsuche.cfm?sucheNach=personNr&wert=207848 https://www.kino.de/star/peter-jukes/260212.html Hungary http://www.port.hu/pls/pe/person.person?i_pers_id=182476&i_direction=1&i_city_id=3372&i_county_id=-1 Croatia http://www.kamo.hr/pls/pe/person.person?i_pers_id=182476&i_direction=1&i_city_id=3372&i_county_id=-1 US http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/lynley/naturalcauses_credits.html Poland http://www.tvp.pl/prasa/omowienia%20dzienne/Rok2008/Tydzien%2028-2008/TVP%201/1P080710.txt Slovakia http://data.port.sk/pls/fi/films.film_page?i_film_id=89419&i_city_id=50017&i_county_id=506&i_where=1&i_topic_id=1 France http://www.yozone.fr/spip.php?article2128 http://www.telesatellite.com/actu/index.asp?page=3&m=05/2004 Rumania http://tv.rol.ro/programe-tv/BBC_Prime/89539/Anchetele_inspectorului_Lynley_:_cauze_naturale.htm http://www.cinemarx.ro/filme/In-Deep-In-Deep-408032.html Korea http://drama.tv.co.kr/drama/review/dramaReview.html?channel=drama&drama_idx=11012 Russia http://www.kinopoisk.ru/level/1/film/252055/ http://www.kinopoisk.ru/level/19/film/396499/ Czech Republic http://port.cz/pls/fi/films.film_page?i_film_id=89419&i_city_id=3372&i_county_id=-1&i_where=1&i_topic_id=1 http://www.port.cz/pls/fi/films.film_page?i_film_id=99337&i_city_id=3372&i_county_id=-1&i_where=1&i_topic_id= Turkey http://www.turkcealtyazi.org/mov/0696861/omen-part-1.html Sweden https://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=74504&selectedDate=20080530 Spain http://www.pizquita.com/seriearticulo-1163.html
 * http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/entertainment/1174103.stm. Partial credit there- the French wikipedia even has a page for it, though- http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/En_immersion
 * One of two writers on the second series of "Sea of Souls", http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2004/12_december/08/souls_credits.shtml, Which won a Scottish Bafta for best new drama series, http://www.baftascotland.co.uk/archive/scotland-awards-2005, see also http://www.moviezen.com/celebrity/peter-jukes, http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0432133/, http://www.lesliegrantham.com/99-1.htm
 * The Holby City Episode in 2000 was the season opener http://www.holby.tv/db/index.php?id=9,1314,0,0,1,0 and the Guardian called it the "televisual equivalent of Crack Cocaine...." http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2000/oct/06/tvandradio.television2
 * About 30 episodes for "Waking the Dead", "Sea of Souls", "Inspector Lynley", "In Deep" have been broadcast in dozens of countries across the world, and have their own entries in foreign languages- some examples follow below:

RADIO

 * Has worked with comedian and actor Lenny Henry. From Lenny's Blog: http://www.lennyhenry.com/home/blog_archive.aspx?id=115, and http://www.lennyhenry.com/home/blog_archive.aspx?id=93
 * "Slavery: The Making Of", http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00775sm, which was reviewed by The Spectator, 209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:HVgPa0_A0ToJ:findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3724/is_20070331/ai_n18781299+"Lenny+Henry"+"Slavery+The+Making+of"&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk - "Amid the deluge of programmes on TV and radio about Abolition and slavery, "Slavery: The Making of"... was refreshingly honest"
 * "Bad Faith"- "Imagine the movie Bad Lieutenant transplanted to Birmingham, with Harvey Keitel's morally bankrupt copper replaced by Lenny Henry as a police chaplain who has lost his faith, and you have Peter Jukes's black comedy", http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article4425009.ece

BOOKS
A Shout in the Street : ISBN: B00126K04C London, New York and California The review from the New Yorker is visible on Google on the following link, http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a787375624~db=all, "A lucid courteous deconstructionist text...  a new kind of book"- unfortunately, you have to pay to see the whole article Cited in 71 books according to Google Books, About half of those are truly substantial quotes, like the one someone has already added to Wikipedia-

Cited in 24 academic works according to Google scholar. Other academic references: http://ro.uow.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1011&context=lawpapers http://www.foresight.gov.uk/Intelligent%20Infrastructure%20Systems/the_scenarios_2055.pdf http://www.springerlink.com/content/f86574v101162148/ http://www.fl.ul.pt/posgraduados/teoria_literatura/Soares2.pdf (though this appears to be... Portugese? Currently used extensively as a primer book on urbanism in many US and UK colleges, see http://www.lclark.edu/~goldman/city&society2008.html, and http://www.cofc.edu/~history/FALL2008syl/Bodek_441_01Weimar%20SeminarF08.pdf Also co wrote Creative Capital: 21st Century Regions, http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=AXDrPQAACAAJ&dq=Peter+Jukes&lr=, with others including the economist and Philosopher Manuell Castells, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Castells

JOURNALISM

 * Reassessment of the impact of computing on art and literature updating Walter Benjamin's work "The Work of Art in the Digital Domain" 1992 New Statesman http://www.compas.demon.co.uk/Work%20of%20Art%20in%20the%20Digital%20Domain.pdf cited in various places http://www.obsolete.com/artwork/bibliog.html, http://www.uit-het-broek.nl/showcase/Op%20zoek%20naar%20nieuw%20publiek%20domein.pdf
 * The future of electronic books http://runners.ritsumei.ac.jp/cgi-bin/swets/hold-query-e?mode=1&key=&idxno=18089282
 * 1994 The work of Geoff Dyer - http://www.bookrags.com/criticism/geoff-dyer-crit_9/n, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Colour-Memory-Geoff-Dyer/dp/0349109192, http://www.jazzscript.co.uk/books/novelsdyer.htm
 * 1994 Feature on Douglas Coupland and cyberspace http://www.bookrags.com/criticism/douglas-coupland-crit_11/and cited in many other commentaries on Coupland's work including, http://www.enotes.com/contemporary-literary-criticism/coupland-douglas
 * Other reviews on Mike Davis' City of Quartz cited http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?isbn=0679738061
 * Discussion of Sherry Turkle's work and Cybersex, cited in various places including http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V80-3VGSGCY-4&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=e97fbdec09bf39fe3f81b1924188efd6
 * Feature on the impact of Windows 95 (how quaint!), cited in various places, original copyhttp://www.compas.demon.co.uk/Publications/WIN95.htm
 * The Independent on Britishness: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/the-last-of-england-as-shakespeares-429th-birthday-nears-the-channel-tunnellers-are-burrowing-under-one-of-his-monuments-on-the-white-cliffs-of-dover-symbolic-fortress-of-nationhood-1455973.html
 * And another for the "Kempfenhausener Gespräche" on Britain in Europe, http://www.compas.demon.co.uk/Publications/Britain%20in%20Europe.html
 * And "Flaming for Obama" from The Motley Moose article made some splash here and in the US. e.g, Daniel Finkelstein http://timesonline.typepad.com/comment/2008/09/magazine-rac-19.html and Brandrepublic http://community.brandrepublic.com/blogs/bloggerati/archive/2008/10/06/obama-blogging-wars.aspx

Cut Motley Moose ref

--Moloch09 (talk) 18:59, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

SPECIAL SPEAKER

 * Regular guest speaker of Cafe Europa, with appearances in Sejny and Poznan in Poland, Bucharest, Barcelona and Sarajevo, http://pogranicze.sejny.pl/archiwum/english/cafe/index.htm http://pogranicze.sejny.pl/archiwum/kalendarium/folder.pdf
 * Bucharest and discussion of postmodernism written up here World Literature Todayhttp://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-27169616_ITM, and here, http://www.observatorcultural.ro/Cafe-Europa.-Cind-a-existat-postmodernismul*articleID_2824-articles_details.html
 * Discussing the future of the book in the internet age, covered by the Barcelona press, http://www.bcn.es/cultura/docs/anyllibreinforma226.pdf
 * And the main Spanish newspaper El Pais, http://www.elpais.com/articulo/elpepicul/20051204elpepicul_6/Tes/Las%20nuevas%20lecturas%20del%20'Quijote'%20copan%20los%20actos%20de%20Kosmopolis, Sarajevo covered here, http://www.sarajevo-x.com/clanak/060608022
 * At the Generation Europa conference in the Tatzinger Conference in Munich, http://www.ev-akademie-tutzing.de/old/tagungen/99_01_16.htm
 * Sheffield DocFest 2008, https://sheffdocfest.com/speakers/view/684
 * PEN and 21st Century Trust at Cumberland Lodge, http://www.cumberlandlodge.ac.uk/OneStopCMS/Core/CrawlerResourceServer.aspx?resource=434EAC8B-1AB4-4B97-AA8C-A70EAEE0EAE5&mode=link&guid=540ded8631d64d32b0c4cf18126be3f5
 * Signatory on the NYRB's letter on the Case of Tony Judt http://www.nybooks.com/articles/19550

phew

Is that good enough? Ks64q2 (talk) 02:50, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No it is not. The 10 i choose at random don't discuss jukes in any nontrivial way at all. Having works that get passant reviews, or that note he had a job with no detail about him whatsoever, or pages that are automatically translated into other languages (or are just TV guides that mention he wrote a non-notable episode of a TV program in English that is being broadcast in their country, i.e. "cruft of the world, season 2, episode 6, peter jukes) or don't mention his name AT ALL (like the swedish TV guide site i just clicked on) do nothing to establish notability for anyone. Bali ultimate (talk) 02:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * There's some useful stuff in here. Ks64q2, please check the New Yorker link. It didn't work for me. Thanks, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 03:03, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sorry about that. http://archives.newyorker.com/?i=1990-08-27#folio=094 Ks64q2 (talk) 03:05, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * And for good measure: [[File:Slavery1.jpg]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ks64q2 (talk • contribs) 03:19, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, posting that that image seems to a copyright violation. Not that helps establish notability anyway, since it's primarily about the radio show, not Jukes himself.--Sloane (talk) 04:17, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry Sloane but dramatic writers write about other people. They are notable if their work is noted not their lives. This is a good review. Brief transcription


 * "As the Slavery season comes to a close... my favourite strand, by far, was one which managed to extract maximum humour from the grimmest of subject matters: Peter Jukes' wonderful play Slavery: The Making Of" cite news | last=Cowen | first=Ruth | title=Bickering actors bring humour to a serious subject | work=Sunday Express | date=2007-03-25 | accessdate=2009-03-18


 * I call that pretty effusive and its followed by a 700 word rave about the play itself which features notable actors such as Lenny Henry, Adrian Lester (swoon), Brian Blessed and Emma Thompson's husband Greg Wise. Now that the citation has been verified the image can be deleted for copyright reasons. I will do the same transcription of the New Yorker Review above if thats ok (yes  I'm an idiot I have a subscription). Call me naive but the fact Jukes is mentioned as author and the play has a very favorable reception is surely more important than the any bio of Jukes? Let me know if you have a problem with this. Hope youre having a great day Sloane --Moloch09 (talk) 23:01, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Still plugging away trying to get this article beyond stub or cv before Afd closes. Plenty more references to go. Still no mention of special speaking and the Journalism section should perhaps be renamed Essays and Criticism? The works seem more like social commentary on new tech etc. And the Politics section could perhaps be separate. Found refs to Gordon Brown's speech on Britishness in 1998 but as yet no direct citation of Jukes' involvement. Given the other stuff can we take this in good faith? Would appreciate advice on these issues--Moloch09 (talk) 21:54, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Excessive article
I don't think this entry should be deleted, but it is ridiculously long. Two dozen paragraphs and 43 (so far) footnotes for a very minor writer? Furthermore, much of it sounds like pure PR (why all the quoted blurbs?). Someone should do some pruning. Languagehat (talk) 17:00, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * My bad. Loads of sources were handed out in during a rather heated AFD where everything unsourced was edited out. I offered to plug it all in. Now that issue has been settled I'll start pruning back on all the unnecessary blurb I addedMoloch09 (talk) 16:57, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Languagehat (talk) 17:32, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Proposed removal of redundant publisher information
A number of citations in this article unnecessarily include the publisher for periodicals and websites that have their own Wikipedia article. This information has no value to anyone wanting to check or track down references. For example, publisher=Washington Post Company for references to The Washington Post, or publisher=IMDB for references to Box Office Mojo, only make the article longer - significantly longer when repeated many times - without adding anything useful. Therefore I plan to upgrade the article's citations to remove all such redundant publisher info, bringing them into line with the recommended use of the cite template (see Template:Citation). Please raise any questions here or on my talk page. Colonies Chris (talk) 21:45, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Bias
This is basically a PR entry. Is this what Wiki is about? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.51.74.71 (talk) 10:59, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

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