Talk:Philosophy of music

How is music non-representational?

Let us keep this page clean and like a void, no links please!

Checazoe 12:46, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

What Kivy means by non-representational is that a beating drum and a clarinet do not represent a ship on the high seas, in the way that one can do so with oil paintings, for example. And so the question is how does it evoke those images, without being representational.

I'm not too sure what you mean clean and like a void. Strange.

And finally, I wrote this page as a stub, but it needs a complete rewrite. I took on philosophy of music course, and wrote one paper, in grad school, years ago, but otherwise don't have much else to say about it. Any experts that want to start it completely over? Llamabr (talk) 13:46, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[[1]] --DaRkXRiDeR (talk) 23:19, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Over time the thought I've given to this, Is all precisely the same, it'll be normal to give it an outlook such as this, Creating a sound representation, Firstly any instrument can be used to give a certain feeling, it'll be a normal summary to say the instrument itself is the sub emotion, from the sub emotion a notable variation is required e.g The sound of seas and waves and birds, this will give the auditory image of being in the ocean with the instrument variated to a feeling creating the sub emotion, this is revealing an emotion and a state, this will then be followed by a speech or a voice in form of singing or rapping, or talking, all and all there's a rhythm which then gives you the emotional tone, the state, and the words, (giving a musical synthesis) "In the seas i feel so lonely, searching for the one to make me feel so happy" It's a three way combination, Speaking of emotion it's notable that it's not easy to comprehend as something simple, which it isn't, it's basically about fitting, you can use any instrument or even sound to flow towards something in the right way, which makes it difficult to understand, because where's the limit? is there really a limit? What is the express way of sound, for you to release your talent through is the question, this is a phenomena, Music is already in existence , but it's hidden in silence a musician has the ability to take it out and reveal it. the true art lays in between the infinitesimal balance between randomness and control, it is the element which needs to be mastered, all music can be pleasing, but it's what you choose, but none of this is a true answer, it's only some basics but where's the root, what's the root of music, maybe it's because music is versatile, It can be used to dance to in clubs, it can be used to help clear your thinking levels, it can be used to relax, so now one would choose a certain direction, choosing the point, I'll create a song for a club for dancing, what now? Music is actually the Elemental Mind Strength to form a creation of balance, The more you put into it, more time spent on practicing, Your inner being becomes stronger and smarter, who wins in a boxing match the man with the biggest heart, so you need to grow your hearts strength in music, by learning experimenting and doing your best, practicing your minds ability, Mozart has also given a great secret to the production of music you'll find it in one of his quotes

Further Reading

I already added Gilles Deleuze but there is a wider lack in the whole article. What about the postmodern french philosophers, as there are: Roland Barthes, Pierre Bourdieu, Jacques Lacan, Jean-François Lyotard, Jacques Derrida, Paul Virilio, Michel Foucault, and Jean Baudrillard? What about Marshall McLuhan, Slavoj Žižek? For example, Deleuze refers to non-representational aspects of music. I could hardly revise the article because my english isn't good enough, I guess.--Wuttgenstein (talk) 05:50, 1 March 2016 (UTC) [2]