Talk:Photo-referencing

Conflict of Interest
There are several problems with this article, primarily the idea that artists make some special use of photographs to create art, whereas, in fact, thoughout history, they have used every ad-hoc and technical means at their disposal. Photorealism, which is a well-understood concept (with a long Wiki article) is not mentioned or integrated into the article.

Much of the rest of this article is obvious, trivial or questionable, and almost invariably personal opinion.

The fact that Alison Bechdel is specifically mentioned, out of thousands of cartoonists and artists suggests that there is WP:CONFLICT. Other, far more famous artists (by any measure) are known to have used photographs, in any number of published works. She is not demonstrated to have any special knowledge, use, or success with the technique above-and-beyond, say, Bonnard, Parrish, or comics artist Hergé, therefore citing her is weak (at best), and possibly a conflict of interest. Hence, I have removed the reference.

67.169.127.166 (talk) 16:49, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Obviously, this is an old discussion — I added the Bechdel reference in August 2007, and didn't notice its removal in April 2008 until now (May 2010). I added Bechdel (with citation) because I was working on the FA Fun Home, which discusses Bechdel's use of photo references in her art; I wanted to link to a relevant article, and found this stub.  I agree that many other artists have used photo-referencing, but I hoped that the addition of one cited example might inspire other editors to add more cited examples, instead of removing the one that I added.  I have no personal connection to Bechdel, and no conflict of interest; in fact, I'm slightly baffled as to why anyone would think that there was a conflict of interest here.  I also don't understand why the cited Bechdel reference was removed, while the uncited Ross and Land references were kept.  So I'm restoring the removed sentence and citation. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:19, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Engrish
Anybody want to knock this into shape? It's not really coherent and detracts from the rest of the article. I have removed it. "There's being used exaggerated technique. When taking for example photo of somebody who is smiling (facial expression), the model has to stretch his mouth as much as he can, then it looks real on a final photo. Same technique is being used when taking photos of some action poses (kicking - kick highest as model can, etc.)." Captain Screebo (talk) 21:26, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Alex Ross and Greg Land
I think there's a difference between them: Ross is very straightforward regarding his methods, which include using actual models dressed in makeshift costumes pose for him. Land, on the other hand, is accused of swiping (or even outright tracing) other people's photos (which he doesn't own the rights to), sometimes the same source images several times, many of his sources being of pornographic nature. The whole section is very vaguely worded and contains weasel words. Who is accusing them? Who is defending them? Are the accusations comparable? I'd disagree here due to the outlined different methods of the two.--77.181.134.144 (talk) 15:22, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

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