Talk:Piano pedals

Different articles with similar information
Why do we have an article on the una corda and sustain pedal here, as well as their relevant articles (Damper Pedal, Soft Pedal)? I recommend we combine information in this and the other articles. Jaser 12345 19:27, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree that we should merge the individual satellite articles Soft Pedal, Sostenuto Pedal, Sustain Pedal into this article. If we have consensus that it is a good idea then I'll take a stab at the first draft of the merge. Brianonn (talk) 18:59, 11 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree that a merge would be a good idea. Graham 87 03:02, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

America or the world? Grand or upright?
The introduction confuses me and seems to contradict itself. Do most pianos have three pedals or only American grands? Tesspub (talk) 12:56, 4 October 2015 (UTC)


 * This is tricky. Good (1982) is cited in the article as saying that European makers are still holdouts on including a sostenuto pedal, but this reference is now 33 years old.  Larry Fine's The Piano Book, published 2001, suggested that the sostenuto is by now included on essentially all high-quality grands, but he doesn't specifically describe a recent conversion by the Europeans.  I think more information on this would be helpful.  Fine also mentions middle pedals with different functions (like raising only the bass dampers), so the issue of three vs. two is not quite the same as sostenuto or no sostenuto. Opus33 (talk) 23:06, 4 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Following up with a search of the website of a few European manufacturers: sostenuto is standard with Bechstein, Boesendorfer, Fazioli, and Petrof.  You can get it as an option on Grotrian.  Bluethner doesn't say but their images show three pedals and it's unlikely that the middle pedal is other than a sostenuto.  I was sad to see that Pleyel is out of business and Broadwood now makes only uprights. Upshot is that it doesn't seem to make sense any more to single out European makers as holdouts on the sostenuto and I will shortly edit accordingly.  Thanks for bringing this up.  Opus33 (talk) 15:55, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Non-existent section
"Functions of the upright piano's middle and left pedals" -- no such section exists, why is there a reference to it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.143.112.66 (talk) 17:10, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Because it used to exist until [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Piano_pedals&diff=prev&oldid=309081897 the article was reorganised in August 2009]. Thanks for pointing this out; I've fixed that link along with another similar problem I found while making that edit. Graham 87 06:06, 21 October 2017 (UTC)