Talk:Pied butcherbird

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The photo in fact shows a Grey Butcherbird, d'oh! --Jquarry 03:01, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree ... moving the image to the Grey Butcherbird article. Brett.donald 18:56, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

OK, I've replaced the image with one of the correct species. The image shows a juvenile bird, so the chest bib is buff, whereas in adults it is black. Brett.donald 19:08, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Uhh, the image of the juvenile still looks more like a Grey than a Pied. Old_Wombat (talk) 09:57, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, not sure about that one. Need to check up in the ol' birdbooks...Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:25, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Casliber, rather than argue about this, can we turn this into a positive contribution? Maybe we should add in the main article that the juveniles of the two species are very similar. That way when one of us is proved "wrong" and the other "right", we will have covered the point. Wot do you think? Old_Wombat (talk) 07:55, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sounds good to me :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:00, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

OK, I've made that change to the text. Taking your suggestion of actually looking at books, the images on page 254 of Simpson and Day 7th Edition are not convincing either way. The narrow, almost non-existent white collar is Grey, the lack of colour on the chest is a Grey, but ... the pattern on the wings is a Pied, the lack of white in front of the eye is Pied as well. Maybe we need a referee? :) Old_Wombat (talk) 08:55, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

A placeholder very wierd but entirely plausible and see this, this, this, this.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:10, 18 December 2011 (UTC)