Talk:Pilsner

Brand list again (German Pilseners)
What are the criteria for including any particular brand in that list? It seems quite arbitrary. There are some of the larger brands (which aren't necessarily better), and then some people seem to have simply added their personal small-brand favorites. -- 85.177.50.81 (talk) 22:03, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

--I think those are just some German breweries spamming this page with their product placement. Then again, where do you draw the line? It might be interesting to have a few brand names up there. So either that or no brand names at all should be allowed - everybody gets treated fairly by not being mentioned.Discordia23 (talk) 19:06, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Spelling
Could someone please decide on what spelling the article should use for Pilsner/Pilsener and stick to it? I noticed a couple of variations. I assume that the e-less one is just a corruption? -mattbuck (Talk) 18:03, 15 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Both versions are broadly acceptable (neither is really a corruption, it's just worked out that way) and both varieties are used on differing brands. I've amended all the versions with e to that without on the basis of the article title, so at least there is at least some consistency!--Schrodinger&#39;s cat is alive (talk) 13:55, 20 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Should the section with pilsner's from different countries have each sentence begin with a capital letter? I made the change but if anyone has a reason otherwise, let me know. Elasticat (talk) 16:17, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

"Pilsner" meaning "low-alcoholic beer" in Finland
In Finland, "pilsner" is more colloquially understood to mean low-alcoholic beer (usually lager, but possibly other types of beer too), with a maximum alcohol content of 2.8% volume. This is noted in the Finnish article fi:Pilsner, with a cited source. Should this be mentioned in the article? J I P &#124; Talk 18:52, 20 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I see that this has not been added in, I looked it over and dont think there is an appropriate place for it yet. Maybe if a style section was created, and a more comprehensive description of the different styles of the countries was created. But then, most of that info can be found on the actual pages. So i added a Beer in Finland tag to the see also page. A win win id say.--Millertime246 (talk) 04:05, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

pilsner as marketing category
So this is the current paragraph under this section; ''A pilsner is generally regarded as different from other pale lagers by a more prominent hop character, particularly from the use of Saaz noble hops and spring (soft) water. While pilsner is best defined in terms of its characteristics and heritage, the term is also used by some brewers (particularly in North America) to indicate their "premium" beer, whether or not it has a particular hop character.''

but it is unreferenced and has been for a while. I found a source on this topic, and suggest a change to this wording. I will also change the title to brew history

Pilsner beer is generally regarded as different from a lager, but is actually a style of lager. It uses a partially malted barley, giving it a lighter flavor, with no roasted or smoked flavor commonly found in Germany. The first pilsner was created using saaz hops and credited to Bavarian brewer Josef Groll.


 * As an aside, if anyone can find some good sources for using pilsner as a marketing category, that would be really cool. Ill start checking it out to.--Millertime246 (talk) 04:54, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Honza z Žižkova
I don't have access to the cited document, but I doubt very much that Honza z Žižkova wrote in Hebrew. Hebrew was used strictly liturgically from about 200 CE to the 19th century. Yiddish, perhaps? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DaveDixon (talk • contribs) 05:53, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Correctly noticed! However, I do not think that it was Yiddish either, as in those days brewage was probably not allowed to Yews. So it is quite probable that it was written in German as usually back then. As the title is not mentioned it is hard to find evidence. If Honza z Žižkova is identical to František Ondřej Poupě (German: Franz Andreas Paupie) then it WAS written in German as you can see in the Czech Wikipedia (http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franti%C5%A1ek_Ond%C5%99ej_Poup%C4%9B#D.C3.ADlo): Die Kunst des Bierbrauens physisch - chemisch - oekonomisch beschrieben (The Art of Beer Brewing physically - chemically - economically described). Google books has at least the edition from 1821 (e.g. 3rd volume: http://books.google.com/books/about/Die_Kunst_des_Bierbrauens_physisch_chemi.html?id=yidSAAAAcAAJ&redir_esc=y). In my opinion Honza z Žižkova, if it even was a real existing person at all (try a Google search), has nothing to do with brewage and this article. Any further evidence around? --212.144.251.27 (talk) 13:20, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Top fermentation
The second sentence under History > Origin says: "Until the mid-1840s, most Bohemian beers were top-fermented." But since this is the only reference to top fermentation in the article, the relevance of this statement is unclear. 174.16.44.51 (talk) 12:24, 8 April 2024 (UTC)