Talk:Plymouth/GA1

GA Review
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 * Starting GAR soon.Pyrotec (talk) 22:51, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Initial review
Quite a readable article, well referenced and illustrated, it so should stand a good likelihood of making GA-status. Two minor points, so far, on claims made in the article:
 * 1) Home of the Royal Marines? - hardly, Portsmouth is the HQ. Plymouth is home to 42 Commando, if wikipedia is to be believed.
 * Ah, I think this was a mix up from the peer review, as it said "become home to more Royal Marines", although they haven't been around for that long. I've now fixed it.  Jolly  Ω   Janner  18:31, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


 * 1) Charles Church, Plymouth destroyed - not according to the photo in the Charles Church article. It was fire bombed, hit by incendiary bombs. The tower is still standing, as are the walls.
 * Good point. I've now changed it.  Jolly  Ω   Janner  18:31, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Will start detained checks of references / citations now.Pyrotec (talk) 18:09, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Review
Sorry this is taking much longer than I anticipated. I got one of those flu bugs that are going around at the end of last week. So I've not made much headway. A small start, and much of this is fairly trival: Pyrotec (talk) 00:05, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) The geography bit in the first para in the Lead got me confused so I got an OS map out. Some sort of stylised map might help the article. The more detailed info in the first para of the "Geography" section helps, e.g. west of the Plym and east of the Tamar, in so far as it goes. However, according to the lead what is in the first para of the "Geography" is no longer true - "Since 1967 the unitary authority of Plymouth has included the suburbs of Plympton and Plymstock". That does not appear in Geography, but it is included in "Local government history".
 * 2) I checked ref 4 against the quoted ISBN - there is a mismatch on publisher.
 * 3) The "View of Plymouth Sound with Drake's Island in the centre" is interesting, but it is woefully inadequate as a description to someone who does not know that location. Obvious questions: where is the photographer standing and what is the place with the gas holders and oil (?) tanks?
 * 4) The population information in the Infobox is uncited other than Ethnicity (which is). The uncited info appears elsewhere with citations.
 * 5) Ref 7 - OUP??!!?? The publisher is Oxford University Press.

Thanks.Pyrotec (talk) 21:10, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I've had a stab at resolving these problems, as well as finding out when the River Plym silted up!  Jolly  Ω   Janner  14:19, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Pyrotec (talk) 21:10, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Ref 91 is a spreadsheet listing universities in alphabetical order. What exactly is being claimed that makes Plymouth Uni the 11th largest, e.g. total All student population, number of staff, etc, etc? Such a claim is meaningless as it currently stands.

GA review
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria


 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * A. Prose quality:
 * B. MoS compliance:
 * 1) Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
 * A. References to sources:
 * B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
 * C. No original research:
 * 1) Is it broad in its coverage?
 * A. Major aspects:
 * B. Focused:
 * 1) Is it neutral?
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * Pass or Fail:

Congratulations, a Good Article.
 * P.S. I would have expected mention of the Royal Naval Engineering College, but even as a GA-class article is still some scope for minor improvements, etc.Pyrotec (talk) 21:22, 19 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Congrats on the GA pass. This is a great article. --Jza84 | Talk  22:50, 19 December 2008 (UTC)