Talk:Poarch Band of Creek Indians

Ethnic identity
I realize this is still a sensitive topic: I rephrased the sentence about Indian intermarriage to indicate that Indians' descendants assumed black as well as white identities. If the Paredes article does not support this assertion -- I'll check -- then I will provide another reliable source that does. The color consciousness that was so all-important in the 19th-century South did not exist to the same degree in the Creek Nation, or even among Creeks in the Tensaw district (the ancestors of the Poarch Band). We should not romanticize this (wealthy Indians did own slaves, for instance), but we shouldn't overlook it either. -- Rob C. alias Alarob 16:54, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Revert of copyvio 02 Aug 2008
An anonymous IP editor rewrote the article with copyrighted text from several pages http://www.poarchcreekindians-nsn.gov. I reverted 8 edits to the last clean version. • Gene93k (talk) 21:04, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Revert of Uyvsdv 31Dec 2011
“It is noteworthy that the Sizemores, Gibsons, Hollingers, Durant, and Marlows, were all mixed-blood lines that came to southwest Alabama from South Carolina. Most were mixed-bloods from the Catawba or Lumbee tribes.”-pg.144

"“Listed as a half Creek Indian, (Arthur) Sizemore probably had some Catawba/Lumbee bloodlines”-pg. 155

Rise of the Poarch Creek Indians, Pub. 2009

http://northfloridaindians.webs.com/traditions.htm

http://www.amazon.com/Rise-Poarch-Band-Creek-Indians/dp/0965414000 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.89.171.76 (talk) 02:51, 1 January 2012 (UTC)


 * When you reverted my edit, you restored "Five Civilized Tribes" - how are the Poarch Creek related to the Chickasaws, Seminoles, Choctaws, and Cherokees? "Northfloridaindians.webs.com" is a self-published source of the North Florida Indian Association, so does not qualify as a reliable source. A single individual "probably" having some ancestry is hardly a conclusive statement. And practically every tribe has members with other ancestry. Littlefield and Parins list the tribe predominantly be descended from the McGhee and Monac families of Creek Indians (174). -Uyvsdi (talk) 20:14, 1 January 2012 (UTC)Uyvsdi

Creek is a generic term for all Muskogee people and thus can be correctly applied to all call of the civilized tribes, with the exception of the Cherokees. I listed the source for the North Florida Indian Association's quotes, and they are taken directly from a tribal history written been by Poarch Creek members. I do not deny that McGhee and Monac families are core ancestors for the Poarch Creek, but these Lumbee related families previously mentioned were married into he "core" very early on and today are stereotypical Poarch Creek surnames. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.89.171.76 (talk)
 * Wow. No, Choctaws and Chickasaws are absolutely not Muscogee Creeks. -Uyvsdi (talk)Uyvsdi


 * Agreed, the anonymous editor is wrong here. The original should be restored.--Cúchullain t/ c 13:10, 3 January 2012 (UTC)