Talk:Portuguese conquest of Goa

Outdated, primary sources
The IP(aka DurChalen123) has chosen to edit war his outdated and primary sources to push his POV.
 * The itinerary of Ludovico di Varthema of Bologna from 1502 to 1508 by Lodovico de Varthema, is a primary source and is not a reliable historical source.
 * ''Kerr, Robert (1824). Clearly outdated. Nearly two hundred years old!
 * Stephens, Morse. Rulers of India: Albuquerque, Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1892. Found [formerly useful website which has begun to attack users, removed by User:Jc3s5h 25 July 2017 11:57 UT], makes no mention of "civilian casualties". Outdated as well. --Kansas Bear (talk) 01:03, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Modern sources
No doubt on the data all the data provided are historical facts and i have presented citations from Brittanica.

Furthermore we should not doubt at all that there were no doubt that there were no Turkish, Persian or Egyptian mercenaries, who had taken shelter in Goa preparing for another offensive against the Portuguese at Diu.

The Casualties suffered by the so-called "All the moors were put to the sword", are the word in Portuguese chronicles; including 150 Prisoners of WarsDurChalen123 (talk) 21:01, 21 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Historical and Archaeological Sketch of the City of Goa, By José Nicolau da Fonseca is not a modern source, c.1878. --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:10, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Encyclopaedia Britannica, poor source does not show all of article, perfect for original research. --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:15, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Cabin-mates for Queen Maria?
In section 3.1 of this article, in its fifth paragraph (close to the end of that section) we read:"Albuquerque...took several women...to later offer them as cabin-mates to Queen Maria" and this does not seem to make sense. During her lifetime, which was spent in continental Europe, Queen Maria almost never sailed in oceangoing Portuguese ships. Thus, it's not likely that Albuquerque actually intended to offer Queen Maria "cabin-mates."

This information was derived from Portuguese-language source material (cited as Costa, Rodrigues 2008 in the context of this article), and maybe there is a Portuguese word in that source which has not been translated accurately. I could see Albuquerque intending to offer the captured women to Queen Maria as servants, or maids-in-waiting, or to fill some role of providing service and companionship. Perhaps a Portuguese word which describes such a role was mistakenly interpreted to mean "cabin-mate" as cabin-mates are also a type of close associate who may provide present aid and service.

My limited resources prevent me from investigating my hypothetical explanation any further, right now. If someone else has insight into this aberrant word usage, or has the wherewithal to remedy it, please do so. catsmoke (talk) 16:20, 25 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Hey there, I am the author of that edit. "Maid-in-waiting" is indeed what I meant to write. Wareno (talk) 04:33, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Search for Ottoman Turks
Portuguese were prepared to "search and destroy" the Ottoman Caliphate units inside Goa.

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