Talk:Postilion

March 2010
There is a computer system used in banking and ATM networks that is called Postilion. I'd like to start the article but I'm not sure how to. Do I start by creating a disambiguation page? With only two entries? Or do I add text to this page with something like "Postilion can also refer to...." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.118.188.114 (talk) 12:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * "Can also refer to" seems more reasonable, considering that the computer system is presumably named after what this article covers. - Alltat (talk) 07:29, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

There was also an EPOS system called Postillion (POS and Till being combined with the play on words that a Postillion is a leader of your team - we never told them that it was a team of horses). Mainly UK based (Air Malta was one of the more unusual places it was used) and relied on Sage Accounting (Sterling/Line50 and Sovereign/Line 100). I developed it in the 90's and early noughties. Still in use in some places. RQuadling (talk) 11:43, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Bad link, disagreement in article
The link on this page referring to the United States Army's Old Guard Caisson also rides postilion leads to an article on Airsoft, which as far as I can tell, has nothing to do with a army/cavalry unit with horses that pull cannons. Please note that the Arlington National Cemetery Article makes no reference to this team either, and this is not the same (as far as I can see) as "The Old Guard" that guards the Tomb of the Unknowns or the 3rd U.S. Infantry Regiment. As a further complaint, the English etching from 1793 doesn't agree with what the article says: "There would be two postilions, or one postilion would ride on the left rear horse in order to control all four horses." The picture shows a team of six horses, with only one postilion riding the front left horse from the perspective of the carriage. I assume that what holds true for a team of four horses would also apply to a team of six, however, I'm not sure how riding the rearmost horse would help control all the horses. You would lead a string of horses from the head or the start of the line, so I would also ride the front left horse to better control the team. Please also note that there is no citation after or "one postilion would ride on the left rear horse in order to control all four horses." Furthermore, I'm sure there must be other references to post horses elsewhere in Wikipedia, as the article "Post riders" and post horses are mentioned frequently in passing literature, like Shakespeare in Romeo and Juliet (if I remember correctly, it's how Romeo flees/comes back to Verona. I could be wrong, though.) Since this is the only source I've ever encountered that mentions the origin of the term, (how else did we get "post" offices? Why are conveniently trade-able and rent-able horses called "post" horses? How did this arrangement come about?) this would be a good place to reference that/place a link to "Post riders." 76.123.43.150 (talk) 05:28, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Currently the page does explain that on a team of 6 horses, the postillion would ride on the front left horse and control the pair, while the driver would sit on the vehicle controlling the other two teams. Alternatively, a team of 6 might have a postillion for each pair. I agree that the image does not best illustrate the positioning, but it also does not claim to do so. Also, just for pure information, the plural of cannon is cannon- not cannons as written in the early part of your dispute. KeeferTrace (talk) 05:32, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

In noting the date of the original dispute, it may be that further description was added in clarification in response to your comments. KeeferTrace (talk) 05:34, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * If someone wants to do the research and insert a footnoted source about all this, that would be a good idea. Also, anyone wanting to do a run-through and fix typos is also welcome to do so.  Montanabw (talk)  18:39, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Travel by post
This section is not about postilions and should be removed. Eddaido (talk) 23:25, 13 March 2018 (UTC)


 * No opinion there, maybe the concept needs a spinoff article. I added a derivative use that DID come from postillion riders.   Montanabw (talk) 18:36, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your addition. Round here we rise to the trot. "rising to the trot" There is (now) an article called (US name) Stage station which covers the Travel by post section. Is it OK? Eddaido (talk) 22:49, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Gallery
It has been suggested that the method of laying out the images at the foot of this article is overly complicated. I spent a lot of time on it because I wanted to provide more or less equal weight to each image and arrange them neatly. Further searching over the last 24 hours hasn't come up with a WP system that achieves the same or close to the same thing. If anyone can come up with an improvement that retains the equality I'd be very pleased to see it. Eddaido (talk) 20:52, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Stagnancy
If there is something anyone would like to discuss with me instead of reverting please get under way and discuss. Eddaido (talk) 03:04, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * What more is there to discuss with you? We've already had a discussion on my talk page where you only gave responses more vague than a child's "I don't like it!" when I asked what sort of design would suit you. You yourself made a post on this talk page asking for something that adheres to your personal conception of a gallery and got no replies. It reeks of WP:OWNERSHIP. Obviously this article belongs to you and no one else shall touch it, especially not the joke of a gallery that instantly breaks down on any other screen size. God forbid we use an already-existing system for galleries designed by people much smarter than you. I'd welcome the opinions of third parties, but I'm presuming you've already driven them off. No one in their right minds would use individual tables for each image in a gallery. It demonstrates not only a complete disregard for web standards, but also a lack of even basic understanding of them. Opencooper (talk) 03:25, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * My Friend! Have I written on your talk page? I will go and have a look again in a minute but why not try to get the subjects the same size or just display a few that you think are significant. It just looks plain silly the way you make it even it pleases the code-monkeys. Try to be creative and not destructive. Thanking you in advance, Eddaido (talk) 04:08, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Section "Travel by post" is not quite on-topic
This section confuses "posting" (staging), the practice of going post to post with a carriage or coach and getting a change of horses, and "postilion" meaning having a rider on one of the horses that is driving/pulling a carriage. Though the topics overlap, not all carriages travelling post-to-post used postilions; some were driven by a coachman or even an owner (no postilion riders). Needs work. Or removal. No time today; just making a note. ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 03:02, 18 April 2024 (UTC)