Talk:Psych/Archive 1

Consensus Request about formatting
In my opinion, the change of font size for the newspaper names in the critical reaction area is unnecessary, and not in keeping with encyclopedic format; it could be considered advertising. I request a consensus prior to changing it back to normal font, however, to avoid editing war. I've never requested a consensus before, so if this is not the way to do it, please let me know. Transcendentalstate 21:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * This is fine, though I don't know how effective it will be, as the article is fairly new, and I'm not sure how many editors are actively watching the page. The formation of individual sections for individual reviews is indeed unorthodox. I'm just going to go ahead and just change it. If there is an actual dispute, I'm sure it will reemerge sooner or later. Dancter 21:50, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Excellent. It looks much better now.Transcendentalstate 22:33, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Psych categories
I've created a category for the series. Robert Moore 01:27, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Differences from the Pilot
It'd be awesome if the trivia section noted some differences from the pilot, especially regarding the casting change. --67.168.0.155 18:40, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Episode list
The USA Network says "Shawn vs. The Red Phantom" is the season finale. But I don't know about the episodes after that one. Anybody have a clue what's going on with those? -→ Buchanan-Hermit ™ / ?!  01:20, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The episode Shawn vs. the Red Phantom is indeed the season finale of Psych. Episodes 9 and 10 (as it said on the Wikipedia page a few days) are now part of Season 2 and that has now been corrected. -- Nish kid 64 23:43, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Critique excerpts
These seem a little unnecessary, not to mention POV. Maybe the article would be better without them? Twin Bird 19:03, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

disambig?
Why is a disambig "needed here"? Psych is not often used for "Psychology." I've only ever heard it sometimes in a university setting. Nobody actually refers to the field as "Psych." The field is "psychology." The only thing I think of for psych is "tricked you." Disambig is not needed. 141.151.3.195 08:03, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I disagree. "Psych" is a very much used as a shortening of "psychology".  Imagine someone watching a movie or TV and seeing a character who says, "I flunked Pysch 101."  The person has no idea what the heck "Pysch" is.  They turn to Wikipedia, the bestest reference in all the galaxy.  Without the disambig, they'll think the character failed a TV show.  :-)   --Nélson Ricardo 17:57, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

New noticeboard
A new noticeboard, Fiction noticeboard, has been created. - Peregrine Fisher 18:06, 1 May 2007 (UTC)


 * This noticeboard has been deleted per Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Fiction noticeboard. Please disregard the above post. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 11:27, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Paste-bin
I've moved the section to the discussion page per WP:TRIVIA. I personally think only #1 can be integrated. Matthew 22:24, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Notice of Psych episode article review
The individual episode articles for Psych are now being reviewed according to episode notability guidelines. Please contribute to the discussion on Talk:List of Psych episodes. Thanks. -- Jack Merridew 11:10, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Fanfiction link
I removed the link to the Psych fanfiction site. While I can see a detailed fansite (i.e. one that has lots of screenshots, character/actor info, trivia, etc.) being linked as justifiable, the fanfiction site is just full of non-canonical stories. It doesn't belong here. 70.234.1.188 03:03, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Elements of Parody
Psych seems half-born from elements of another USA Network original series, The Dead Zone. Instead of copping to his eidetic memory as the source of his abilities to solve complex crimes, Spencer instead uses the information he gains through observation to initiate faked "visions", claiming himself to be a psychic.

--note: I moved this here not because it is not an excellent point, but because perhaps it could be developed into a mini-essay about parallells with other series and points of parody as a theme in the show, assuming that this is a viable and continuing theme. For now, it seems more trivia than something of a theme yet. Please feel free to move it back if you disagree strenuouslyTranscendentalstate 20:10, 10 July 2006 (UTC)


 * To me, it suspiciously sounds like original research, as there's no way to cite or prove this. -→ Buchanan-Hermit ™ / ?!  20:28, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

There was a commercial in which the guy from the Dead Zone and Shawn were in a diner arguing who were better, and then they both agree that at least they weren't Monk after they notice him counting out exactly 100 corn and returning like 6 back to the waitress. That's the only thing I could think of that could serve as any sort of comparison.24.96.200.232 —Preceding comment was added at 02:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

How many seasons?
Info box says three seasons, episode listing only shows two (with unaired episodes). How many seasons are there? Eudoxie (talk) 19:10, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Unless I'm missing some odd way of defining 'seasons', there are only two at the moment. I've made the correction to the infobox.  Thanks.  Kuru  talk  19:13, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I think it was changed due to the announcement of the series being renewed for a third season. Since the episodes have not yet been produced, I'm not sure which number should go in the box.  Not much guidance at Template:Infobox Television on the subject that I can find.  Kuru  talk  19:20, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You were correct to revert back to 2 seasons. Just because the 3rd season was OK'd doesn't mean that it will be made. For example, look at season 7 of 24. Another reason they may have labeled it as 3 seasons is they thought that this second part of season 2 was actually a new 3rd season. Flash176 (talk) 20:06, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Possible Psych WikiProject?
I think, with the show's renewal and increased popularity, that a Psych WikiProject is a possibility. I've started a draft here. Feel free to edit and improve upon it if you think this WikiProject is feasible. :) -→ Buchanan-Hermit ™ / ?!  18:55, 30 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I was thinking of starting a WikiProject, but it seems too early right now. No new episodes until January, so I guess we should wait until then to start a WikiProject. OR...you could start one now and get a bunch of people to join, so that in January we will have a force of people ready to edit. -- Nish kid 64 16:04, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Okay. That's more or less the same thing I was thinking. -→ Buchanan-Hermit ™ / ?!  17:49, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't the draft be posted over at WikiProject/List_of_proposed_projects? --TorriTorriTalk to me! 03:50, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, I don't want to officially propose it yet. I want to see the general reaction first before taking any action at all. EDIT: On second thought, posting it there might not be a bad idea at this point. -→ Buchanan-Hermit ™ / ?!  04:27, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I would be glad to help in any way I can, and will join if a project is started. Though I'm not sure that the topic is broad enough to warrent it's own project. Blackngold29 (talk) 00:17, 28 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll help in any way as well. Especially for Season One help. Music is life. Live it fun. Listen to Ska! (talk) 13:36, 28 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I would be very interested in helping out with this project. To contact me, you can e-mail me at amanda_mcclees@yahoo.com or you can IM me on yahoo messenger xXnypianogirlXx.]] March 2008 Insert non-formatted text here

Did Psych come out before 2006?
I tell my family all the time that I saw previews for Psych in 2004 and then I just never heard about it again. Was the show ever postponed for any reason? The fact that I can't find anything about this makes me think I imagined it but I don't think I imaged a show years before it aired. The only clue I can come up with is, I saw it on a commercial on a Digital Cable channel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CN Guy (talk • contribs) 01:37, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Psych continuing in Australia
After the show was canceled after 4 episodes, today the 5th episode of season one was aired. Not sure how to put this in the article.

203.33.163.99 (talk) 13:11, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Unnecessary pages
While I appreciate what is apparently a ton of enthusiasm directed toward Psych's Wikipedia page and all related character pages, I think some users have gone a bit over the top lately. Just as an example, if you go to the Carlton Lassiter page, you'll notice that there's a link to a full article that was written about a peripheral character who has never appeared on the show. On a similar note, Buzz McNab -- who is a cool character, don't get me wrong -- also has his own page, even though he's extremely far from a main or even secondary show character. Same goes for Lucinda Barry, who appeared in one episode yet has her own full Wikipedia article.

Any thoughts? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)
 * I agree. I love McNab, but he really doesn't have a significant enough role on the show to warrant his own Wikipedia article.  And as for Lucinda Barry and John Fenich - no question, they don't belong here. Shoemoney2night (talk) 03:32, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I have nominated Lucinda Barry and John Fenich for deletion. You can give your two cents on the discussion pages here and here, respectively. Shoemoney2night (talk) 03:48, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Many other shows' articles handle this problem by having a single article (I think it might be a "list" article) that talks about all the characters, or talks about all the characters beyond the starring roles. Each character gets a paragraph or section, but they're all on one page. Such articles exist for Friends and for Gilmore Girls, for example.Lawikitejana (talk) 16:37, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Steve Franks -- basis of the show in real life
When Psych debuted, Steve Franks did interviews with TV Guide in which he said the show was inspired by his father's real-life drilling him in observation. I can't access that magazine online, but I wonder if someone else might have the clipping so we could cite it. The same fact, although not the article, might be somewhere on USA's site. Lawikitejana (talk) 16:38, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

International Broadcast + DVD Releases
The two sections are merged and I don't know how to separate them. Anyone else able to? Bests, Languageleon (talk) 09:45, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

pineapple
does anyone know the deal with the pineapple?


 * It's a Hawaiian welcoming gift. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.166.225.191 (talk) 22:16, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I have noticed the pineapple in a couple of episodes, usually hidden in the background such as in a the pattern of Shawn's father's hawaiian shirt, sitting in a fruit basket, or Shawn holding it during the pilot episode. I consider it a funny thing to try and find.  But I have not spotted it in every episode yet.  In Spellingg Bee, I did not see it but Chinese food was shown (which is also shown on the insert for the Season One box set).  Coincidence?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.58.250.198 (talk) 03:16, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The pineapple is definitely are running gag on the show. The NBC/Universal store is actually selling merchandise featuring the pineapple here -> http://www.nbcuniversalstore.com/detail.php?p=52635&v=nbuusa. A pineapple can often be seen in their office or at a restaurant they are eating at. It is part of Shawn's larger love of fruit and food in general. During the Spelling Bee episode Shawn gives the contestants "Banana" and "Onion" as words to spell. Then in the Soap Opera episode Shawn wants to know if the sandwiches on set are for everyone or just the cast. With more references it might be justifiable to give the pineapple it's own section on the page, but we'd need more than NBC's merchandise store.


 * This is an old question, but in case anyone still wants to know, USA has this: http://www.usanetwork.com/series/psych/pineapple/ I don't know if it should go in the article. -Sketchmoose (talk) 18:53, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

France
This show is diffused in 13eme rue channel, everyday at 6.10 p.m Minato ku (talk) 07:56, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Biased POV
This section is problematic:
 * "Rachael Leigh Cook plays Shawn's high school crush, Abigail Lytar. She appears in two season 3 episodes and becomes a recurring character in season 4. In You Can't Handle This Episode, the winter half premiere of season 4, Abigail departs for Uganda. She tells Shawn that she'll be gone for 6 months or longer and that how it's been a life-long dream of her's. Shawn clearly doesn't seem interested in going with her, so they share a goodbye kiss at the airport before Abigail gives her last farewell. This implies that the character will not be returning in further episodes, which could easily be used as an excuse to finally get Shawn and Juliet together."

Can somebody edit it to be more neutral? - 199.79.165.17 (talk) 15:28, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Pineapple?
What is wrong with adding information about the pineapple? DEWY CHEATEM AND HOWE (talk) 06:22, 24 October 2011 (UTC)


 * For our purposes it's basically fancruft (i.e. trivia primarily of interest to only fans of the show). It would likely fit in really well on a wikia that covers the series, though.  This is the only one I know of and they have a lot of work to do but you might check there.  Millahnna (talk) 07:45, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

The pineapple is a reoccuring theme. It is used in marketing by both the producers and USA Network. USA even has a game dedicated to finding it that is located on its webpage http://www.usanetwork.com/series/psych/pineapple/ DEWY CHEATEM AND HOWE (talk) 17:49, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


 * It was restored by another editor who agrees with you and I cleaned up the text a little. The section still comes off a little on the awkward advert side of things, but it's a bit better now.  I don't know that it's so much a running theme as a running gag but in light of its use for marketing, I'm not going to edit war over its inclusion.  Millahnna (talk) 20:50, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Lassie
In his entry he's described as 'clean' and 'by the book', however, in his new partner's entry, he's described as the 'bad cop' to her 'good cop'. I haven't seen the show and maybe the two descriptions aren't mutually exclusive, but they seem to me to be in contradition with each other.--Anchoress 00:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * There's no contradiction. He is a by-the-book guy who plays the "bad cop" role to get confessions from suspects.EleCambria 18:28, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Um, I've watched the show for a while now and... he's not playing. He's seriously that intense. Padillah (talk) 14:40, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Pierre Despereaux
Someone (I can't remember who) insisted that the sole purpose of Shawn and Gus's trip to Canada was to catch Despereaux. This is untrue. It started out as a pleasure trip. They got involved in the race to catch Despereaux after a chance encounter with him. So the information on Despereaux as it now appears in the article is accurate. Please discuss here before reverting. --Jgstokes-We can disagree without being disagreeable (talk) 03:46, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Is Facebook a reliable source?
I was elated to hear that Psych will air its seventh season on February 27, 2013. However, I was a little troubled that this news came from Facebook. So I wanted to ask: Is Facebook, by WP standards, a reliable enough source? If it is not, another source needs to be found for this information. Just wanted to ask. Thanks in advance for the input. --Jgstokes-We can disagree without being disagreeable (talk) 19:42, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Generally not, but I'd say that it is in this case (because of WP:SELFPUB), and also because the news came in the form of a video featuring four of the main cast members. Kevinbrogers (talk) 19:43, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Makes sense. Thanks. Although technically, only 2 of the Psych main characters actually made the announcement. Lassie and Jules were silently in the background just counting. Silly, but it works. Exciting news! --Jgstokes-We can disagree without being disagreeable (talk) 19:51, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Definitely exciting. I haven't actually seen the video, but I read several articles about it and I know that the video is the original source.  Kevinbrogers (talk) 22:41, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Psych and Monk
I have noticed a lot of similarities between Adrian Monk and Shawn from Psych. Ex. They both notice details, they both are witty (though in different ways), etc. However this is original research, therefore not suitable for Wikipedia. If anyone has found a website or media source that supports my claim, that would be interesting. Eirra 03:33, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


 * It probably is original research, but there was a commercial about the two shows in which their similarities were touched on. Like they had the screen split with a close-up of each saying "Here's the thing" at the same time. Just sayin' that the network noticed it too. 66.87.91.36 05:31, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


 * USA also joked about the striking similarity to the show The Mentalist. Shawn Spencer states to the RCMP that his job is like the show the Mentalist, except that he is not a fake psychic. Gus remarks it would be exactly the same, and Shawn calls it "a virtual carbon copy." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.253.117.39 (talk) 03:36, 8 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The problem with all this is, as I've outlined on The Mentalist talk page before, is that neither The Mentalist or Psych or Monk are copies of each other. Yes they have a relatively similar concept (although with glaring differences between all three) but they all use a concept which can be traced back through the years, past Columbo and Murder She Wrote and all those sort of things, right back until Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes novels. The Psych commercial referred to is their attempt to create some attention for their programme - that is the point of ads, to get people talking about, and viewing, your programme. Also, you can't say Psych copied Monk or The Mentalist copied Psych, because that implies that they are actually guilty of infringing some sort of copyright, and there has been no such case even raised against any of them. Why? Because they all know that they are using a years old concept. Alan16 (talk) 11:00, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

The guy how notices things is a old concept but is the fake psychic solving murders an old concept? -Really? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.215.150 (talk) 06:57, 31 October 2011 (UTC)


 * The issue has nothing to do with deciding if The Mentalist infringed on Psych. The point is that a running gag on Psych is making references to The Mentalist. That is a simple fact - just as much as the running gag of having a pineapple in every show. In the last episode (as I write this), they just had Shawn Spencer defending The Mentalist as a quality show. Sidetracking this with an argument about how much (or little) the Mentalist infringed on Psych is being purposely obtrusive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.23.113.249 (talk) 13:10, 15 March 2013 (UTC)


 * You do realize you are replying to a conversation that has had only one comment since 2009 - right? Think the issue is dead... Ckruschke (talk) 17:41, 15 March 2013 (UTC)Ckruschke

Psych Meaning?
what is the meaning of psych anyway? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.146.220.43 (talk) 16:35, 8 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I assume you are asking about the show title. It's short for "Psychic", which, if you've seen the show, Shawn professes to be. Ckruschke (talk) 19:08, 8 March 2013 (UTC)Ckruschke


 * In addition to being short for psychic, it also has the slang dual meaning of "tricked you!", a reference to the fact he's not really psychic (In fact, Gus discusses this in the second episode)Sheriffjt (talk) 08:24, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

International Airings
I remember something about wikipedia not being a tv guide... should'nt the international broadcasters section be removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.15.182 (talk) 20:29, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


 * They aren't verified and they definitely are not WP:NOTABLE so yes, the list should be removed. Even in good articles (e.g. The Simpsons, Friends) only a few international broadcasts are listed, usually notable contracts when the show gets picked up by English language countries. -- 109.78.194.181 (talk) 18:26, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Does Australia really need to have it's own paragraph at the bottom of this section? I mean, the information is summed up in it's little box at the top. I really doubt it's necessary, but I'd like someone who is more familiar with Wiki rules to clarify before I remove it. Languageleon (talk) 07:10, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Just out of curiosity, why has the table about international broadcasts been removed? Surely it's relevant to the article to get an idea of how significant the show is (or otherwise) in other countries. Other articles on major US shows like House, Desperate Housewives or The Mentalist have sections about international distribution, yet the one for Psych has been removed. Jammycaketin (talk) 15:32, 16 April 2010 (UTC)


 * See Wikipedia project television. They don't say no to these sections but they do not encourage them either. Take the good articles as examples, they have short amounts of prose, and they are properly verified. Flat lists and dull data tables are not what you see in good articles. -- 109.78.194.181 (talk) 18:26, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Psych: The Musical
The delayed airing of Psych: The Musical to this fall raises some important questions. 1) For the best convenience of Wikipedia readers, should the musical special be included in pages for Psych: Season 7 or as its own page, dealing with it as a TV movie. 2) For the best convenience of Wikipedia readers, is the season finale of Season 7 on May 29, 2013 or is it in Fall 2013? Basically, what defines Season 7 when the musical airs as a separate special? I know that the musical was part of the original 16-episode season order, but the network itself finds it simpler to define "No Trout About It" as the Season Finale. One solution could be to label the Season Finale as May 29 but include a footnote that clarifies that the musical aired in the fall. Or this could be reversed with a Season Finale of the fall and a footnote clarifying when the primary run was. I am tempted to say that Psych: The Musical is separate from the regular season and should therefore get its own separate page, its own separate premier date, and a separate everything from Season 7 besides a note that it was part of the original episode order. What is the most logical organization for readers? I thought this was an important question. Tsweeney34 (talk) 05:04, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Most sources that I've seen make it clear that Psych: The Musical will air as the two-hour season 7 finale. Where most seasons consist of 16 episodes, even if there is a delay in airing the musical till the fall, it's still part of season 7. So I changed the end date of season 7 to TBA. If you find a source saying it stands alone, then that changes everything. But until that time, I think we should leave it as is. --Jgstokes-We can disagree without being disagreeable (talk) 06:54, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Well, I am officially confused. According to the USA Network, the episode that aired last night was the season 7 finale, with Psych: The Musical airing independent of any regular season feed. So I'm not sure what to do now. Thoughts? --Jgstokes-We can disagree without being disagreeable (talk) 01:49, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I have a couple thoughts:
 * 1) Back in the days before season 7, USA split the 16-episodes into two separate runs (summer, fall; fall, spring). I recall that USA listed the Season 6 mid-season finale as "SEASON FINALE" and labeled the half-season as a "season." USA's labels are there purely to minimize confusion for viewers who do not understand an actual season order.
 * 2) "Psych: The Musical" uses episodes 15 & 16 of the original 16-episode season order. Technically, it is part of Season 7. However, the network moved it to maximize ratings and fill the exceedingly long hiatus between seasons. USA has labeled "No Trout About It" as the season finale to avoid confusion with viewers.
 * 3) Essentially, "Psych: The Musical" is indeed part of season 7, and it is indeed the final episode. Therefore, history will look back on it as the season finale and we should label it thusly in my opinion.
 * However, if anyone else thinks this is better labeled as "the first Psych movie" and is better categorized as such (separate from a season) then I'm open to discussing it. For now, though, maybe just keep it as the finale. Tsweeney34 (talk) 02:01, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Sounds right to me. That makes perfect sense. Okay. In that case, I vote for leaving it as it is. Thanks. --Jgstokes-We can disagree without being disagreeable (talk) 03:00, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

It was agreed on the season 7 page that Psych: The Musical will be the two-hour finale of Season 7. Accordingly, I have changed the end date of Season 7 to December 15, 2013. Please discuss here before reverting it back. --Jgstokes (talk) 04:37, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Not that i actually think it is anything more than spin but it seems Comcast now wants to have the musical external to any season. That would seem to be backed up by the allegedly 14 episode DVD release of the complete 7th season in three weeks. Either that means Comcast has decided the musical is no longer part of season 7 (lovely revisionist history that is) or the musical will be appearing on DVD more than two months before it is on tv. In between the lies there is a lot of clarity. I'm not inclined to revise the history. If it's all eight, then you're all wrong. So why bounce around to the same old song. You wish that you could run but you can't crawl. You know i know that you’re not telling the truth. You know i know its the wisdom of youth. Expose the deception, sew what you rend. Your lame press releases won’t psych us out; musical seven. Canonical episodes as specials. Canonical episodes external to seasons. Seasons actually consuming 2 calendar years when previously that would have been two seasons. It is very near a chaotic state where nothing we have grown up knowing means anything to those who write the reliable sources we use.   delirious  &amp;  lost  ☯ ~hugs~ 05:33, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Since when have WP specifications been conditional on how Comcast defines things? I couldn't tell from your humorous post whether you are in favor of or opposed to listing the musical as part of Season 7. Please clarify if you can. In the meantime, thanks for the chuckle! --Jgstokes (talk) 06:44, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Since when have WP specifications been conditional on how Comcast defines things? I do believe the answer to that is the date the reliable sources policy took effect. Comcast owns Universal Cable Productions. Comcast owns usa. Comcast commissioned a 16 episode 7th season. Comcast announced the musical will be a special. Comcast is releasing the complete 7th season on 8 October, allegedly sans the musical. Comcast is going to have the broadcast premiere of the musical on 15 December on usa. As the commissioning broadcaster and home media rights holder for the show in its domestic market Comcast would be considered the ultimate reliable source. Comcast seems to be revising history to present the musical as not-part-of-the-7th-season. It isn't all that unlike ITV commissioning Law & Order | UK in three 13 episode blocks and then broadcasting them and releasing them on DVDs as 6 x 6-or-7 episode series while Comcast, who owns the format and co-produces the show through one of their British subsidiaries, distributes the show to broadcasters, iTunes, and DVDs in North America as 3x13 episode seasons (and as 3x13 on iTunes in the UK). Revisions of history to claim that seasons aren't actually what they were announced or commissioned or produced or broadcast as is nothing new to television. I can say we should do whatever but since Wikipedia loves reliable sources that defaults to abiding by the revisionist history of Comcast re the musical or challenging the reliability of Comcast. The one thing i am not in favour of is the revisionist history which has removed the musical from the 7th season. Good luck proving Comcast is an unreliable source. :( delirious  &amp;  lost  ☯ ~hugs~ 22:35, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Season Viewers
Why do we need an entire column, changed in color to give it prominence in fact, that is dedicated to the overall season viewers if we only have one piece of data (for season 5). It's extremely irritating to draw attention to an entire column with yellow/orange color when the column says "TBA" seven out of eight times. The data point for season 5 would be MUCH better served as a sentence in a paragraph somewhere (maybe just in Psych (season 5)). It doesn't help the overview of the entire series in any way. Can I delete this column and move the season 5 data?Tsweeney34 (talk) 21:59, 27 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Think someone had a wild hair... Ckruschke (talk) 17:17, 29 May 2013 (UTC)Ckruschke


 * It seems to me that when creating this page, someone took the lead from Monk's page, which does the exact same thing. But Monk committing the same crime makes me feel no better about Psych. Any objections before I delete the column? Tsweeney34 (talk) 21:24, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

I have finally removed the total viewers column. Of all seven seasons, it only had one non-"TBA" entry. And the orange color really highlighted the gaps. I have determined that it was useless, and therefore had to go. Tsweeney34 (talk) 04:09, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Harris Trout
Someone (I forget who at the moment) attempted to add Harris Trout to the list of recurring characters. I saw some issues with the way it was listed and worded, so I reverted. So I wanted to post here to ask: Should Harris Trout be included on this list? If so, what do we want in the description of him? What would be the best way to handle this? Thoughts? --Jgstokes (talk) 23:14, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

External links modified
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Toyota Yaris?
Gus' car (aka "The Blueberry") is a Toyota Echo, not a Yaris. You can see that it says Echo on the back in many episodes. In one episode (I believe its the one where Shawn is kidnapped after investigating the crash and robbery of an ice cream truck) Gus at one point says "I drive an Echo." — Preceding unsigned comment added by WertMooMoo (talk • contribs) 08:20, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that relevant correction. In light of that, I would suggest that all relevant references to "Toyota Yaris" be changed to "Toyota Echo". Who's with me? --Jgstokes (talk) 07:20, 7 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Yaris = Echo. It's extremely common for the same vehicle to be marketed in different countries under different names. (It's also common in North America for the same vehicle to be available under two or more distinct badges at the same time.)137.205.100.173 (talk) 14:39, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

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Distributor name
There seems to be a slow edit war over the "distributor" name (argument appears to be if there's a space in the name). The link to "NBC Universal Television Distribution" is a redirect to "[[NBCUniversal Television Distribution", the version without the space does appear to be correct. The Parent company is NBCUniversal, whose website clearly shows "© 2018 NBCUNIVERSAL MEDIA, LLC.". It seems pretty clear that is the correct name, so I'm not understanding the insistence on adding the space. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 03:11, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I also checked the about pages on the websites for NBCUniversal Domestic Television Distribution and for NBCUniversal International Television Distribution, both of these also appear to omit the space in the official name. --- Barek (talk contribs) - 03:18, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for posting this topic to clear that up, and sorry if I was part of the problem. Your edit summary offered in reverting my edit cleared up my confusion on that subject, but I am grateful to see you have posted here about it for anyone else that may not have picked up on it. Thanks again. --Jgstokes (talk) 03:21, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. I saw the IPs edit earlier today, and almost reverted it myself as they hadn't justified their edit. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 03:25, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Series Ending; Page cleanup
Because Psych is officially ending this year, it's time that we all clean up this page permanently. Some things we need: Help make a permanently good page as the show ends! If you have any other ideas for important sections, please talk about them here. Thanks! Tsweeney34 (talk) 21:34, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Adding a section about fan involvements. Psych is now considered a cult show and has one of the most active fan bases in all of television. Because Psych is unfair aid of doing crazy things, they have done several major fan involvements over the last few years. Some examples: Psych Slumber Party, fan-voted episode, HashTag Killer and Social Sector, fan-created and -voted Season 7 poster, several Comic-Con panels, Psych Ultimate Fan Episode, etc., etc....
 * Moving the exceedingly long list of recurring characters to the page List of Psych characters. This is a good list, but it's too long for this page and the character list page needs some improvement anyway.
 * Expansion of the section currently title "Novels." The section should be retitled and made to include other tie-in products, including the humor book Psych's Guide to Crimefighting for the Totally Unqualified.
 * Maybe a mention somewhere about the possibility of a spinoff, as teased by the president of USA Network.
 * General cleanup. More professional writing, more citations, etc.


 * I would also add sentences need to be edited for brevity, clarity, and ease-of-reading. The article includes tangential thoughts that distract the reader from the overall subject (specifically, see the opening paragraphs and the mention of Monk and the "Overview" section's detailed explanation of only the pilot). --Bienfaisance (talk) 20:02, 31 January 2018 (UTC)