Talk:Psychopathy/Archive 8

Bravery is the exclusive trait of a Psychopath
Every brave person is a Psychopath & every Psychopath is a Brave person

Boldness is a primary trait of Sociopath but not Exclusive
Boldness is an acquired trait & not exclusive to Sociopaths only, as normal people can be Bold without being Sociopaths Postparks1 (talk) 09:04, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Hitler psychopath?
It is obvious to anyone that reads any of Hitler's speeches that he was a rational sane person. Before WW2 he did all he could to 'humanize warfare' and prevent bombing of civilians. Read his speeches! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.129.108.48 (talk) 00:48, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Hitler was an idiosyncratic personality, to say the least.

Merely from his speeches and from his library, much can be gathered as to his psychopathic or non-psychopathic identity.

His sociopolitical, racial ideology was synthesized from many sources, many of them sane, many equally mentally deranged, e.g., Lanz von Liebenfel's Theozoology. Liebenfels was clearly a schizoid obsessive, an academic who had lost his mind somehow, as even reading one page of his "Theozoology" pamphlet would suggest to any person. Then there are scientific individuals of the kind such as Ernst Haeckel, more complex personalities with more nuanced ideological world-views in the formation of Hitler's ideology and the interrelated dilemmas: Haeckelian vitalism is not reducible to some sort of vomit of psychopathy.

I believe there are indications Hitler indeed possessed a conscience of some kind, as many indicators point to in his life and writing and reading, but a titanically dysfunctional one (Understatement); and thus fits into the modern conceptualization of "sociopath" vs. psychopath. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:B34B:A940:6D5A:9490:5662:7E85 (talk) 21:52, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Hitler seems to be an extreme condition of Narcissistic personality disorder. 2409:4060:2089:3FF4:0:0:9B4:60A5 (talk) 17:41, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Sociopath ≠ Antisocial personality disorder?
I wonder why sociopath redirects here instead of to Antisocial personality disorder because it seems that it usually refers to ASPD. — Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 06:28, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
 * https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/antisocial-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20353928
 * https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/high-functioning-sociopath
 * https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/features/sociopath-psychopath-difference#1
 * As noted in the article, it's often used synonymously with psychopathy and is considered the same thing as psychopathy in some sources. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 08:46, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Reformulation is copyright policy, not grounds for removing information.
The edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Psychopathy&diff=1010608993&oldid=1010607684 appears to assume that any change of the choice of words compared to the sources constitute pov. It does not. Wikipedia copyright policies promote changes of the choice of words instead of direct copying, and in a criticism section a critical formulation is appropriate. Indeed, other parts of the same section are formulated in a critical way.2A02:AA1:101A:ACA6:E1D4:809A:7506:DB9D (talk) 10:48, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Wrong. This isn't about there being a problem with you putting information in your own words. Your own words must comply with our policies, including WP:WIKIVOICE. RandoBanks (talk) 10:54, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, another part of the section that was there before I edited it says "Some have called for rejection of the concept altogether, due to its vague, subjective and judgmental nature that makes it prone to misuse.". But all right, you can change as many formulations of criticism that do not mention author names in the text into ones that do as you want.2A02:AA1:101A:ACA6:E1D4:809A:7506:DB9D (talk) 11:00, 6 March 2021 (UTC)