Talk:Public relations

Critical public relations research
There is a lot of great research being done by critical cultural scholars. It would be great for that to be represented. Tiggeritian (talk) 01:45, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

"Publics" in "Definitions"
Several of the definitions of public relations, including both those from PRSA and the CIPR one (which I added to the article recently) use the word "publics" in the plural. This is an odd usage, and probably needs an explanation.

There is a discussion of this in "Key Concepts in Public Relations" (Franklin et al, 2009) but since I am an author of that I didn't want to add a citation of my own work.

I would suggest something such as:

According to Quentin Langley in Franklin et al the use of the word "publics" in the plural is "central to the understanding" of public relations. Langley writes "all organisations have a series of publics, or stakeholders, on whom their success depends". He then follows Hayward (1991) in dividing the publics into "customers (past, present, and future),staff (past, present, and future), investors (past, present, and future), politicians and regulators, neighbours, and business partners (suppliers, distributors, etc.)".

Langley also goes on to contest the marketing concept of seeing public relations as part of marketing, which he claims is too focused on just one of Hayward's six publics: customers.

Qlangley (talk) 14:57, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * https://sk.sagepub.com/books/key-concepts-in-public-relations/n124.xml - Franklin et al (2009), Key Concepts in Public Relations. London: Sage.
 * Hayward, R, (1991), All About Public Relations: how to build business success on good communications. London: McGraw Hill.


 * I have added a "Publics" subsection to the Definitions section broadly aligned with Qlangley's suggestion, with the addition of a citation of Hayward's book. The suggestion seems non-controversial but also helpful to readers who might query the use of the plural term. Paul W (talk) 19:05, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Merge from Media relations
That other "article" is simply a WP:POVFORK using a different term, and written in a promotional and how-to style. As a retired media and public relations professional, I would say these are the same field, entirely. "Media relations" is simply the aspects of PR that interface with journalists, newswires, and other aspects of the mainstream media, which is the vast majority of PR (as somewhat distinct from advertising/marketing). Other aspects of PR more broadly, like event hosting, etc., are all connected to media relations, because the media are generally the means by which the broader public is reached about those and other matters. Anyway, I'm not sure how much of that page is salvageable. It has few sources, several are iffy, almost all are old, and any salvageable material from the piece would need rewriting.

PS: The actual bulk of the other article, from "Media relations and public relations practitioners" on down, is entirely about PR in general and not specific in any way to the media-relations segment of PR. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  17:39, 17 July 2024 (UTC)