Talk:Quercus coccifera

Growth height?

 * The areticle says "Quercus coccifera is usually a shrub less 2 metres (6.6 ft) tall, rarely a small tree". But I have a book about Crete, where prickly oak is common, and it seems to say that its natural height is a fullsized tree, and that why it is usually seen as low ground cover or scrub is because of heavy grazing pressure by sheep and goats. As grazing pressure is relaxed, it grows up into hummocks, then shapes like topiary, then cylindrical shapes; then if it gets a top twig above sheep and goat reach, it grows up away high. Same if a prickly oak seed lodges and grows away on a cliff where grazing animals cannot reach it. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:22, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * some sources distinguish between Quercus coccifera in the western Mediterranean and species that may be called Quercus cretica, Quercus calliprinos, etc. in the eastern Mediterranean. One supposed distinction is then height: the western forms are shorter than the eastern. But Plants of the World Online and other authoritative sources regard this as one variable species. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:08, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Maximum age
How old can these trees get?? BasileusAutokratorPL (talk) 18:35, 13 April 2019 (UTC)