Talk:Quesadilla

Old page history that got moved to wikibooks
Old page history that got moved to wikibooks when this page was an interwiki redirect. Quesadilla means cheese and the dilla part is for tortilla * (cur) (last). . 02:05, 1 Feb 2004. . Gentgeen (squashing another interwiki redirect) * (cur) (last). . 20:19, 22 Jan 2004. . Hyacinth * (cur) (last). . M 20:29, 8 Jan 2004. . Mikkalai * (cur) (last). . M 13:37, 8 Jan 2003. . Mzamora (sp guacamole (what about "sarza criolla" instead of "salsa criolla"?)) * (cur) (last). . 20:55, 13 Nov 2002. . 64.0.146.61   * (cur) (last). . 20:50, 13 Nov 2002. . 64.0.146.61   * (cur) (last). . 15:18, 13 Nov 2002. . Zoe * (cur) (last). . 13:41, 13 Nov 2002. . Grimm Ripper (Removed recipie) * (cur) (last). . 13:38, 13 Nov 2002. . Grimm Ripper (Reverted to old version(left in recipie)) * (cur) (last). . 13:35, 13 Nov 2002. . 66.185.164.2 (Added the recipe) * (cur) (last). . 13:31, 13 Nov 2002. . 205.188.209.69   * (cur) (last). . M 13:24, 21 Sep 2002. . Andre Engels * (cur) (last). . 12:59, 20 Sep 2002. . 207.249.130.208 (Clarified definition and differences vs. the taco) * (cur) (last). . 11:37, 19 Sep 2002. . Koyaanis Qatsi * (cur) (last). . 11:36, 19 Sep 2002. . Vicki Rosenzweig (copyedit; sometimes a pair of tortillas) * (cur) (last). . M 11:34, 19 Sep 2002. . -- April (header, copyedit) * (cur) (last). . 11:31, 19 Sep 2002. . 148.247.2.44   * (cur) (last). . M 02:54, 29 Jul 2002. . 206.187.63.161   * (cur) (last). . 02:52, 29 Jul 2002. . 206.187.63.161 (New Article)

The first paragraph totally doesn't make sense when it says that they don't usually have cheese when the meaning of the word in spanish has the word "cheese" in it. Anyone care to elaborate

~Ann C Panse


 * I don't know if it's true or not about Mexico City quesadillas, but I'd note that Bombay duck is fish, Colonial Goose is lamb, Welsh rabbit is grilled cheese, Bear claws are pastry, and Rocky Mountain oysters sure ain't oysters, so the name isn't always a good guideline. Z iggurat 03:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Quesadilla in Mexico refers to a type of masa preparation, where raw masa is folded and sealed over the ingredients in the manner of a pasty or empanada. Probably got the name because cheese IS a typical ingredient, the sealing keeps the cheese from running out. Most of this article describes cheese tacos, not quesadillas. Tubezone 03:32, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Pronounciation
The trivia mentions an alternative pronounciation but there is no correct phonetic pronounciation to compare it to. Could someone add this in.--Opark 77 07:47, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I think the correct pronunciation should be something like: "keh-sah-Dee-yah"... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 148.225.105.5 (talk) 15:28, 31 January 2007 (UTC).

"Dilla"
Queso means cheese, but where does "dilla" come from. It is Tortilla in Mexico, That all means Quesadilla

Spainish (as in Spain) Quesadillas
Anyone know enough about Quesadillas to add a section on what they are in Spain (I was just there and "Quesadilla" seemed to refer to a potato-and-egg-pancake, but I don't know enough about it / don't have any sources to cite)??? 70.23.145.155 21:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe you are thinking of the Spanish tortilla? Azalea pomp 01:10, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

removed aficionados. are there really quesadilla aficionados?

Concerning Adding Content to Quesadilla page
Several of us here on Wikipedia are trying to defend the frivolous reprimanding by the Wikipedia user Delicious Carbuncle. We are trying to add the following information:

References in Media

In the hit movie Napoleon Dynamite, Napoleons Grandmother states that she will be gone to visit some friends, and will not be back until the next day. They are a low on steak, so she has "Lyle" coming over to take care of it. "Well whats there to eat!?" asks Napoleon angrily, "Knock it off Napoleon, make yourself a dang quesadilla!" she retorts. "Fine!" Napoleon grumbles.

References

http://www.hulu.com/watch/9172/napoleon-dynamite-make-yourself-a-dang-quesadilla

We feel that this information complies with Wikipedia's rules for editing, as we have a very reliable reference; that being the original movie.

Please help us in defending the placement of this information on the Wikipedia Quesadilla page.--Tchurch1 (talk) 02:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

You guys sure are not helpful, all we wanted to know is if it would be something to put on the Quesadilla page. Another thing, Solicitor is obviously creating multiple accounts, it is too obvious.--Tchurch1 (talk) 02:08, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Obvious Troll Is Obvious. I look forward to your imminent banning. Solicitor1 23:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Troll, banning, what are talking about??? Just tell me that it is not something that you think would be appropriate on the quesadilla page. I am just looking for opinions.--Tchurch1 (talk) 23:27, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Please stop using bolding unnecessarily. In case you missed it the first several times, here are the issues with what you are attempting to add to the article: this is trivia that possibly belongs in Napolean Dynamite, but not here; you need to provide a reliable source per WP:BURDEN and WP:RS; and some of what you were previously trying to add counts as original research (see WP:OR). Thanks. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 03:19, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I picked up somewhere that you had to add the three quotes in order to place your comment, I did not know that the quotes were only for bold. Thanks--Tchurch1 (talk) 04:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Agreement
Tchurch1 is totally right. This page needs some references from media etc. That really can help a reader make a real life connection. Way to go tChurch man! Flashpro (talk)

Agreement Number Two
Solicitor1 is totally right. Tchurch1 and Flashpro are on the road to Bantown. Way to go Solicitor1! Solicitor2 00:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Solicitor1 (talk • contribs)

"Way to go Solicitor1! By Solicitor2", this guy is creating multiple accounts, what a fake! You will get banned for creating multiple accounts. "...On your way to Bantown", this is not a kids website, please get serious.--Tchurch1 (talk) 02:17, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Behave respectfully
Before I say anything else... the reason the ND quote likely doesn't merit a placement in the article is because quesadillas are largely unrelated to the quote. It's not like nobody had ever heard about them. It's not even one of the fifty most important lines of the movie.

That said, "Obvious Troll Is Obvious. I look forward to your imminent banning." and similar statements are astonishingly inappropriate for an encyclopedia. We rely on assuming good faith here at Wikipedia. And also on the fact that this isn't freaking 4chan where you get "cool points" for biting the newcomers' heads off or whatever.  Matt Yeager   ♫  (Talk?)  09:01, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Reality
Flashpro and Tchurch1 are almost certainly socky (and if not, they're definitely meaty). There's assuming good faith, and there's ignoring the patently obvious. There, I gratuitously quoted some Wikipedia policy; do I now get to be part of the royal 'we' that Matt refers to? Both accounts solely exist for the hilariously pointless creation of the Dang caseadilla article (look at their edit history) and they're needlessly bothering Delicious carbuncle, who I feel like standing up for, although I'm sure he doesn't need it. As for my 'astonishingly inappropriate' statements - well Matty, I just looked at your userpage and, I quote: 'I think that it wouldn't kill anyone to have a joke thrown into a long article' - Solicitor1 (talk) 23:19, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * While I appreciate the support, I'm hopeful that Flashpro and Tchurch1 will move on better things now and become the valued editors that we all know they can be. Thanks. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 14:10, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, Solicitor1, I'll buy that. But before you get to be included in the "we" (which is more of a "us Wikipedians", not a royal we) Red Slash - Smily.png, you first get the awesome honor of reading WP:BITE, which is far more important than humor for the purposes of creating an encyclopedia.  Matt Yeager   ♫  (Talk?)  10:27, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Come to Your Senses
Solicitor1, I would just like you to know that both Flashpro and I are new to Wikipedia editing, after using it for so many years. We are not "Sock Puppets" and we are not "Meat Puppets" either. We are both just new to Wikipedia editing. We did not know that by asking if something would fit in a certain section of Wikipedia that people would come along and make fun of us. If you still think that we are sock or meat puppets, please appeal to Wikipedia. I will tell you that I know for a fact that your Soliciter2 account is a sock or otherwise meat account, and I really don't think that it is a good thing to create multiple accounts just for the fun of it.

I rather think that some of the users here are not contributing, neither staying neutral, but bringing Wikipedia users down and making fun of them.--Tchurch1 (talk) 01:46, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Please stop creating new topics for every comment - just reply underneath and indent your comment with a colon. I hope you now agree that your additions to this article aren't appropriate, so let's all just let this drop and move on. Thanks. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 14:10, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Come to Your Senses
is the etymology section for real? that can't be right... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.9.12.65 (talk) 22:08, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Pizza
Do we really need the pizza column? 74.33.174.133 (talk) 17:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Special Quesadilla citation
Will this do for a citation of special quesadillas? http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/601230 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.225.133.60 (talk) 19:07, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Name of article
An editor recently moved this article to "Quesadilla (Mexican Cuisine)" with the edit comment "There are different types of Quesadilla, ie Salvadoran Quesadilla, Spanish Quesadilla...". This may be true, but we don't currently have articles on all those foods, and it isn't clear that each should have its own article until they are described. If the foods form a natural family, they can all be discussed in one article. So I have moved back to "Quesadilla" for now. --Macrakis (talk) 22:27, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

American quesadilla
You're being too insular with this section -- the Southwest has no corner on the Mexican or TexMex food market. There are many parts of the country which have had large Latin populations for a century or two by now. I have lived on both U.S. coasts and have seen quesadillas around as long as I can remember. I've met several folks in their 80s of Latin ethnicity who were born and raised in the North Central U.S., whose families undoubtedly introduced quesadillas there at least 80 or more years ago. Trying to restrict something like a particular ethnic cuisine to one part of the country is very misleading for those who are unfamiliar with the U.S. and, really, it does not inform on the food, itself.

As far as the ingredients in an American quesadilla go, it would be better to say that it only requires a tortilla and cheese to qualify -- they can be flat, folded, rolled or multilayerd, but they have to have those two. You can list other common ingredients if you want to, but it needs to be clear that this is only a partial list, since, really, anything goes -- I've seen a Reuben Quesadilla served in a New England deli. I personally make ham and egg quesadillas for breakfast and ham, Swiss cheese and asparagus rolled quesadillas for brunch, and I'm surely not the wildest cook out there.

If you want to show some specific variations, the Oaxaca cheese article has two good images with vastly different quesadilla-type platters. 66.81.42.228 (talk) 08:05, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Con queso?
A food stall that mostly served workers from the Mexico City airport offered quesadillas, and for a few pesos more they came "con queso." What could this mean? I had no time to buy one and see. Colin McLarty (talk) 15:35, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
 * "Con queso" means "with cheese". Given that quesadillas come standard with cheese, my guess would be either they were selling plain tortillas and offering to make them into quesadillas for a bit more, or they were offering extra cheese on top. — Bardbom (talk) 06:42, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

tlaxkalpocholi
Quesadilla in náhuatl is "tlaxkalpocholi". Composed of tlaxkalli (tortilla) and kuelpachoa (to fold). Hippo99 (talk) 00:20, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 03:41, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

i never try quesadilla
i really do Turkeysandwichlove (talk) 09:00, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

United States in Infobox
Sources such as this and this describe the United States variant as distinct from the Mexican variant; that variant originated in the United States, hence the inclusion in the infobox. - Aoidh (talk) 16:27, 21 January 2023 (UTC)