Talk:Rancho San Pedro

Category request
Feb 21st, 2007....I would like to catagorize this article under California Ranchos, and add a picture of the original map from 200 years ago that is reflected in the California State University, Dominguez Hills web-site, historical archives section; Dominguez Rancho (maps) , http://archives.csudh.edu:2006/cdm4/RanchoSanPedro.php    just follow the link..I believe it's not a copyright violation and it will be of great importance to this article, can you please help? thanks, Dave DonDeigo 14:47, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I have written a new version in the talk section, as advised,, citing references, and not infringed on any copyrights...please review and instate accordingly, thank you DonDeigo 16:50, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Rancho San Pedro re-write
Juan Jose Dominguez, a Spanish soldier, came to San Diego, California with the Gaspar de Portolà expedition, and later to San Juan Capistrano and San Gabriel, with Father Juniperro Serra. In 1784, Juan Jose was granted 75,000 acres of land from the Spanish Empire, signed by the Spanish King Carlos III, which was named Rancho San Pedro.

The original Spanish land grant included what today consists of the Pacific coast cities of Los Angeles harbor, San Pedro, the Palos Verdes peninsula, Torrance, Redondo Beach, Hermosa Beach, and Manhattan Beach, and east to the Los Angeles River including; the cities of Lomita, Gardena, Harbor City, Wilmington, Carson, and Compton.

In 1846, the Battle of Dominguez Rancho was fought on the rancho site during the Mexican-American war.

The rancho land grant was validated by the Mexican government @ 48,000 acres in 1828, and a US land grant validating 25,000 acres was issued in 1858 by the state of California.
 * these facts were retrieved from the State of California museum's sections, State of California's Spanish / Mexican land grants and the Rancho Dominguez web site. I feel this re-write does not infringe on any copyrites and is a basic version for the article. Please advise..DonDeigo 15:11, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I have written excerps from several copyrighted sources for citation and validation purposes to relate the facts as best I can, to reach as many people with this story as I can, about the early days of Spanish California....I think it's imperative that this information, from copyrighted sources, be explained in this Wikipedia format. I don't believe I've been in violation of any copyright laws, because like pictures, history is public domain and passed along through documents that are public record. Several sources site the info I have stated in creating the Rancho San Pedro article, i.e., the on-line Dominguez Rancho, California Land Grants, several city Wikipedia articles, etc, and I've put forth a lot of effort researching this material to get it right.

The copyright law states that you can not entirly copy one's work without permission, but if you copy a few sentences, and are not doing so for personal profit, and doing so in a teaching format, like this article, then you are within the law.

Please consider this arguement, as I would feel that like so much of California's rich history has been convoluted, and passed over, this article should remain, and be edited and discussed accordingly...like all the articles within Wikipedia. Several cities have incorrectly stated the beginnings of their towns in their history sections, that need explaining, reference to the integrated Rancho San Pedro article clairfies some of these mis-conceptions DonDeigo 14:39, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Minimum historical account that should be stated in this article
Copyright violation deleted. Please see http://www.dominguezrancho.com/history/ for one account of the history of Rancho San Pedro and the Dominguez Rancho Adobe. BlankVerse 03:43, 20 January 2007 (UTC)