Talk:Raymond Lam

Updates?
Wow... this article looks so different from what I've last seen. Is anyone working on it? Farxrah (talk) 11:26, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Last revert
Lots of content added by an IP seemed to have being copied and pasted, thus was removed for copyvio. -- JForget 15:35, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

NPOV
We've two problems here. Firstly, the article is mostly written from a fan's point of view, with praises and strong emphasis on Lam's achievements. Secondly, some editors have been attempting to include some information about Lam being criticized for winning certain awards because he's on a contract with TVB and so on. I'll assume good faith here and take it that those editors are trying to make the article sound more neutral. However, great caution needs to be taken to avoid having defamatory comments about Lam on the article. Thoughts? _LDS (talk) 04:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't we start with adding sources first? I don't see any sources at all for his article. Stormedelf (talk) 05:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, but don't the external links count as references? I think the article lacks citations, not that it's totally unreferenced. His achievements and awards need to be cited and certain parts need to be rewritten for neutrality, such as this one. _LDS (talk) 05:47, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

There's not much I can say here. I'm sick and tired of removing information added by people who don't understand what type of information is not appropriate here. You people can check the edit history of this article and see what it has become after an IP editor "expanded" the article. DO NOT remove those tags at the top of the page until the problems are fixed. _LDS (talk) 08:41, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

The fact he has had plastic surgery is ignored and his family influencing TVB to promote him is also not mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.7.71.82 (talk) 07:22, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Disagree about Bias
I disagree that the page looks like a fan page... All artists' wikipedia pages describe their achievements and lists awards and superlatives like the youngest to win whatever or the top sales for whatever album. That's all normal. A fanpage would say things like "He is super awesome" and "People all over the world enjoy his/her music". This is a typical biography. I do agree it has to be better sourced though.

Cleanup Project
I havent really paying attention to this article until recently and while I agreed that we need to add more reference to prove the article worthy, I also think formatting is killing the page right now. The fact that 70% of the article is using wikitables and the fact that themselves arent even referencing with reliable source. Furthermore, do we really need to put every song on each album he puts out? Shouldnt we be doing a stub on those albums and then reference them in discography template? If no one has any objection, I am thinking to try few things to make this less 'bulky' and more focus on Raymond's actual work. ~E (talk) 06:37, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Inconsistent info
There needs to be some more reliable source regarding the inconsistent info that he is of spanish descent. His education background is also difficult to verify. Benjwong (talk) 05:50, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

removing POV tag with no active discussion per Template:POV
I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:
 * This template is not meant to be a permanent resident on any article. Remove this template whenever:
 * There is consensus on the talkpage or the NPOV Noticeboard that the issue has been resolved
 * It is not clear what the neutrality issue is, and no satisfactory explanation has been given
 * In the absence of any discussion, or if the discussion has become dormant.

Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 (talk) 18:49, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

External links modified
Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to 1 one external link on Raymond Lam. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/20100410210244/http://www.nst.com.my:80/Current_News/NST/articles/20090823164851/Article to http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/articles/20090823164851/Article/

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