Talk:Rebecca Lee Crumpler

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Source for NIH Proof?
Is there a link or source to prove that? Would like to see that source to confirm. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tdiscioglu (talk • contribs) 20:58, 26 October 2019 (UTC)


 * , I am not understanding your question. What needs to be checked? I have made a lot of edits to the article, checking sources to content, improving sources, etc. so I am not sure that there is still an issue, but I wanted to check in with you so I don't miss something.–CaroleHenson (talk) 22:46, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Recent edits
There are some recent edits to:
 * Remove content from infoboxes... I am not sure why, these are standard fields for infoboxes
 * The place of birth somewhere along the line had been changed to Christina, Delaware, but the source says that she was born in Delaware. To add a town or city, a source is needed.
 * There are also some unhelpful edits that are acts of vandalism.–CaroleHenson (talk) 02:09, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I found a source for her birth place.–CaroleHenson (talk) 22:47, 20 February 2020 (UTC)


 * I also removed the image requests - there are no known photographs of Rebecca Crumpler.–CaroleHenson (talk) 22:50, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

People who have researched Dr. Crumpler know there are no known photos or images of her. The foreign language translations of this article don’t seem to know that. Is there a way to fix this? If you know how to delete photos from the translated articles please do so! Lee Price (talk) 20:18, 28 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi ,


 * I am just seeing this. Yes, there are 12 articles in other languages. The approach would be similar to what is in the article now. See with a statement and a source.


 * Are you interested in splitting up the articles. My intention would be to translate the sentence Although no photographs or other images of Crumpler survive,[35][36] a Boston Globe article described her as "a very pleasant and intellectual woman and an indefatigable church worker. Dr. Crumpler is 59 or 60 years of age, tall and straight, with light brown skin and gray hair."[37] to the target language (and then I usually translate back again to English to see what happened / if it makes sense). Interested in dividing and conquering?–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:15, 18 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I went to make changes in the Arabic item (first of the 12 languages) - couldn't figure out how to add citations for the content and remove the image.


 * But, I put in a request to rename the file [:https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rebecca-Lee-Crumpler.jpg here]. Hopefully that will take care of it.–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:02, 19 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I removed the file from all the pages that it was posted on.–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:41, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Atlanta
An IP user added some content that Crumpler also taught in Atlanta. I am not finding a reliable source for that. It cannot be added to other cited content where that's not covered, so I rolled back the edit here.

If anyone finds a source, I am happy to double check it is reliable and properly format the citation and language. Just leave a note here.–CaroleHenson (talk) 02:01, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Comment about the article
This article is well written. It is informative but does not focus enough on Crumpler's life as a physician. Why is basically the same information that is in the lead restated in the body of the article? Kmpittman (talk) 22:04, 7 April 2020 (UTC)Kmpittman


 * , I am hoping to better understand you. There are four paragraphs about her career:
 * Career
 * Nursing and medical school
 * Doctor
 * Educator
 * A Book of Medical Discourses


 * Are you saying the "Doctor" section needs more info? Other? Do you have reliable secondary sources for greater detail?


 * I am confused by your comment about the Intro, which is supposed to summarize the article. What were you expecting to see there that you are not seeing - or vice versa?–CaroleHenson (talk) 23:12, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Images
I was able to find images of Rebecca Lee Crumpler but noticed this article says none survived. Not sure what to make of that or know how to add a graphic image to a wiki article, but it bothered me that there is a picture of her husband but the article says none exist of Dr Lee Wikikatzed (talk) 19:32, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I am seeing that removed the photo in the article and stated that there is not a verified photo of Rebecca Lee Crumpler.
 * In the article, there is a sentence that states that there is no surviving photo of Crumpler and this is the source, which explains who the images are believed to truly depict. See also this New York Times article. I will add that as a source to the article.–CaroleHenson (talk) 23:44, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
 * In the article, there is a sentence that states that there is no surviving photo of Crumpler and this is the source, which explains who the images are believed to truly depict. See also this New York Times article. I will add that as a source to the article.–CaroleHenson (talk) 23:44, 18 October 2022 (UTC)


 * See also more recent replies at .–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:16, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

homeopathy
I can find no evidence that Dr. Crumpler was trained in or practiced homeopathy. The Directory of Deceased American Physicians lists her as an “Allopath”. Homeopathy at B.U. came later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.123.20 (talk) 15:16, 22 August 2020 (UTC)


 * There's nothing in the article that says that she practiced homeopathic medicine, just that she was influenced by it.


 * The sentence in the article is Although her primary focus was on the health of women and children, which seemed to be influenced by homeopathy, Crumpler recommended courses of treatment without stating that the treatment was homeopathic.


 * I am not able to see into the cited source, but I found, "It may be these considerations that led some to assert that important pioneers like Mary Thompson and Rebecca Crumpler, who graduated from NEFMC, were 'homeopathically trained'" here. See also "The New England Female Medical College supported the homeopathic approach to medicine here.


 * I also thought back to her aunt when reading that statement.


 * Do you have a suggested way to reword that? It would be really good to know the passage in the cited source.–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:09, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Recent edits (July 2023)
I made several edits to the article here, so I thought I would summarize where I am coming from.
 * Fairview Cemetery is actually a disambiguation page, so I changed the link to Fairview Cemetery (Boston, Massachusetts). There were a lot of links to that article, I think I removed 1 or 2 links.
 * In general, there are a lot of links in the page (See MOS:OVERLINK). A lot. There still are. So, I trimmed down the multiple instances of the same links and links to common words. Perhaps the number of links could be trimmed down by only linking to the first instance (e.g., American Civil War, Boston - especially where they are relatively common words/phrases)?
 * African American does not need to be hyphenated, that's actually dated usage. See CJR style guide for race. (Even though the main article is African Americans, there are still some subordinate articles and categories with the hyphen. Perhaps a discussion for another day.)
 * This may be more of a personal preference, particularly for pages that already have a lot of links, but I find it is easier to read articles without red links... again "particularly" where there may not be sufficient notability for separate articles. For instance, I don't think there is much information published by reliable sources for articles about her husbands. See MOS:REDLINK
 * Changed freed slaves to freedmen and freedwomen, my thought process is similar to slaves-->enslaved people.
 * Edit "intense racism" to "intense racism"
 * Language for the link similar to what a reader will find: "...to a predominantly African-American community street to "... to a predominantly African American community
 * When I saw the link for "street", I thought the link would go to Street, which seems silly to link to.–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:20, 18 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Edit "Friends of the Hyde Park Library" to "Friends of the Hyde Park Library (Hyde Park Library)" - this may be a style thing, but it looks awkward to link part of a name of something. This is my best thought at the moment to handle that. There may be another, better option.

If I have made some changes that you may think are incorrect, it would be good to know and come up with a good alternative.–CaroleHenson (talk) 18:42, 18 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Inserted MOS:REDLINK and MOS:OVERLINK to the original post.–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:29, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and trimmed a few more links.–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:40, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Poetry
, I am so sorry that I reverted your edit. I did it accidentally and didn't know it until I went to my watchlist and saw that I made a change to this article. I have put it back in.–CaroleHenson (talk) 02:03, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * No worries, @CaroleHenson—thank you for catching and fixing the error, and letting me know! Jcejhay (talk) 11:10, 20 March 2024 (UTC)