Talk:Redneck

Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2021
Actually Redneck term comes from Striking miners that tied Red Bandanas around their necks during the march on Blair Mountain. Nothing to do with sunburns. 2001:5B0:43D2:53F8:C86B:4652:B988:84B (talk) 22:15, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:20, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
 * https://dailyyonder.com/the-unexpected-radical-roots-of-redneck/2022/09/05/ 2600:1014:B05C:8B72:0:4E:44F1:EF01 (talk) 15:21, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * https://wvpublic.org/do-you-know-where-the-word-redneck-comes-from-mine-wars-museum-opens-revives-lost-labor-history/?amp=1 2600:1014:B05C:8B72:0:4E:44F1:EF01 (talk) 15:24, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Here's another source:
 * https://www.jstor.org/stable/25474784?searchText=west+virginia+mine+wars&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dwest%2Bvirginia%2Bmine%2Bwars&ab_segments=0%2Fbasic_search_gsv2%2Fcontrol&refreqid=fastly-default%3A74a376832404278e7d0256053c1e6503&seq=3 Jeff101 jr (talk) 20:42, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Nevermind I didn't read the later comment that added this. Jeff101 jr (talk) 20:43, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Source for sunburn reference
My father always told me the term “redneck” came from the red bandanas that organized laborers from that community/area wore. They weren’t farmers they were coal miners who literally spent their whole working lives underground, not in the sun.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/25474784

Unless there’s a reliable source for the sunburn explanation, I think it needs to go. It’s not true and it’s a silly. lazy explanation 2603:7080:5D3C:BB00:B12C:90AE:9B56:1A89 (talk) 22:33, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * the term was widely used in the 19th century USA and first dates to 1830. The red bandanna bit is 20c--much too late. see footnotes 11-15 in the article. See "A Short History of Redneck: The Fashioning of a Southern White Masculine Identity" by Patrick Huber 1995, stating: "most scholars of the American language agree, originally derived from an allusion to sunburn." Rjensen (talk) 00:38, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Redneck culture Arose in England not the US
The article does not mention the history of the Redneck culture, which arose in the UK and was then migrated into the southern US. Historically is not a negative but a culture/live style from the Uk. 2A01:598:D007:4610:74C9:8F80:2E52:CA5F (talk) 12:30, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Completely False Entry
The term red neck came from coal miners attempting to unionize. During a famous march the miners wore red bandanas and were called red necks. Who ever wrote the current entry is ignorant to the correct history of the term. 70.114.183.48 (talk) 15:59, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

The true source of the term redneck
In west virginia in the early 1900s many if not most men found work in coal mines ran by corrupt and greedy companies that refused to pay them for the back breaking labor they endured with real currency instead they were given credits to shop at a company owned general store. Eventually they revolted against the owners of the mines and decided that bloodshed would be the only way to incite positive change and took up their rifles against the coal companies, which by this time had hired dozens of pinkerton men to quell the uprising. The result was a bloody battle that claimed many lives. One of the items sold cheaply in the company store were red bandannas so the miners bought one for each man and tied them around their necks so that they could identify one another during a battle. This way they didnt shoot one another. Thus birthing the modernized meaning of the term redneck 76.26.81.55 (talk) 13:28, 23 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Are you referring to the West Virginia coal wars? 2601:601:D381:68C0:852A:43CE:20EC:1D5B (talk) 07:42, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Redneck possibly rooted in "cracker" culture + African-American "ghetto" culture
I would like to add the following sentence to the article, same as found on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_(term).

In his essay titled "Black Rednecks and White Liberals", published in 2005, American economist and social philosopher Thomas Sowell argues, that the "ghetto" African-American culture originates in the dysfunctional white southern redneck culture, which came, in turn, from the "Cracker culture". 93.34.236.85 (talk) 22:58, 18 July 2024 (UTC)