Talk:Regional Municipality of York

move to Regional Municipality of York, Ontario
If anyone's interested, please comment on the message I left at Canadian wikipedians' notice board/discussion. Thanks. --Qviri 06:16, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

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Move proposal
I'd like to move this (and other similarly named Regional municipality of X, Ontario) article to the undisambiguated Regional Municipality of York. It is currently a redirect to this article. None of the other Yorks have the unique legislated designation of a Regional municipality and thus disambiguation is unnecessary. The lead to the article already places the subject in Ontario as well and it is not the job of a disambiguator to locate, describe, or give a précis of the article. WP:CANSTYLE also recognises that disambiguation is not needed for unique names. Double Blue (Talk) 01:05, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. No need for the dab. GreenJoe 03:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Support, as per WP:CANSTYLE. Skeezix1000 (talk) 11:32, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Support inverting of redirect to simplify article naming. Mind  matrix  13:41, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Support, unique name. (Tangentially, change that hideous manually-coded infobox while we're at it!!) Bearcat (talk) 17:50, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Support as straightforward unique name, only Ontario could produce a concept that resulted in City of Kawartha Lakes. Franamax (talk) 00:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Or "City of (Prince Edward/Haldimand/Norfolk) County"... Bearcat (talk) 17:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

&#x2713; Done. Thanks for your comments. Double Blue (Talk) 15:30, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:CANSTYLE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DigitalC (talk • contribs)

Transportation section
This section has some verbiage on how the road network is "remarkably 'grid-like'" and the "topography of the land has permitted roads to be set in predominantly straight lines". The road grid is indeed remarkable, however:
 * The township grid was established by surveyors long before any European settlers were actually there, largely around Simcoe's tenure as governor. The accomplishments pf thos early surveyors, dragging chains and carrying theodolites and notebooks through dense forests, swamps and mosquito clouds is truly remarkable. The road grid arose as a matter of course from those early surveys.
 * Our article mentions a north-south/east-west road grid. That is incorrect, in fact the road grid is baselined along the local shore of Lake Ontario, as are all counties (erk - regional municipalities) abutting Lake Ontario. This explains the very serious disconnect between the road grids going around the west side of Lake Ontario, they weren't plotted for long distance driving - just try getting from Newmarket to Elora by the shortest route. The York County road grid is pretty close to magnetic north alignment, but it's nowhere close to NS/EW.
 * And as far as topography permitting I'd rather think topography notwithstanding! The road grid is an artefact of British colonialist design, no more, no less. The rail network as it developed through the 1800's, that's a different story - it obeys topography as well as linking the original population centres, which obeyed hydrography (rivers and dams, which is where you find most of the original towns).
 * Anyway, it's not correct to say that topography "permitted" grid-like roads and I see no direct source to verify the statement. Rewording would be appreciated. Franamax (talk) 06:50, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with you. We certainly should mention the work of the Queen's Rangers under Simcoe's direction, laying the foundation for a number of roads which ultimately led to the settlement of York, especially along Yonge Street. Mind  matrix  17:57, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

ISrael?
Israel is not European by most definitions, considering its place on an entirely different continent. For this reason I feel it si approrpiate to remove Israel from the "european ethnicities" section. Maybe they can get move to the Asian section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.236.226.27 (talk) 00:59, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I suppose that's how it's listed in the census. Much of Israel's population is of European background anyway. And by removing it entirely you are deleting the fact that a certain percentage of the population is of Israeli background, which then makes the page even more inaccurate. Adam Bishop (talk) 01:58, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * On the other hand, I don't know where any of those numbers come from, since as far as I can tell the 2006 census says there were only 1610 Israelis out of 709,550 people. (And the census lists Israel under "West Asian".) Adam Bishop (talk) 02:09, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The 2006 Community Profile for York Region shows the minority profiles indicated in the article, but not the "European" breakdown that's the point of this discussion. Unless a proper source can be found, the European numbers should be deleted, IMO.   PK  T (alk)  02:15, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Possibly the data is coming from here (Profile of Ethnic Origin and Visible Minorities for Canada, Provinces, Territories, Census Divisions and Census Subdivisions, 2006 Census -> Data Tables -> York if that link fails). That shows 48,515 "Jewish" ethnic origin, which is 6.8%, and is listed in "Other European origins". The whole ethnic origin part of the long-form census is bad news, since multiple responses are allowed and you can end up with way over 100%. However it seems clear that Jewish not = Israeli, and the flag should be removed. In fact, I'd say all the flags should be removed and text names used instead. Franamax (talk) 04:40, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree with Franamax. Firstly it's a dubious suggestion that Jewish is some sort of ethnic origin in the first place (as I think anyone will tell you), the fact that these people might not have origins in Israel, and the fact that Israel is not European by any definition (including the census of Canada which apparently calls it West Asian). I don't understand why it would be kept. Maybe flags can be used for all national origins, otherwise the only included ones should be deleted. I vote for delete the whole section as it's inaccurate anyway (as someone said, the totals are more than 100%). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.236.226.27 (talk) 19:57, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay I updated it to fit with Adim Bishops info. I got the percentage of Israelis from the number of people living there as he included in his post, and updated it into an Asian ethnicities section. Maybe u guys wanna add the other asian countries? Also something to refleckt the Jewish percentage elsewhere (such as a religions section). I dont know how to make the new flags though. I think this is a good comprimise yes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.236.226.27 (talk) 20:03, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Bullets
I just noticed that currently every section in this article contains a bulleted list. That seems a bit much; doesn't the style guide deprecate bulleted lists in a lot of situations anyway? Q·L·1968 ☿ 21:54, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

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