Talk:Remember December

"Music video and Fanmade rap remixes" section
Do we really need that? Why not just rename it "Music video" and put a brief summary of the video? That kinda makes more sense to me. -Mike R.--71.255.35.95 (talk) 17:51, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Notability
So this was released as a single but it didn't chart on any US chart or anywhere else around the world? Is this article notable enough to exist? Calvin  &bull; 9 9 9 22:20, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It charted in the UK :) Pancake (talk) 22:23, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Bug
There is a bug in the Article Feedback Tool on this page. No matter what you rate it, the averge will always show up as 1. The bug has been reported at Bugzilla as bug #30227. Pancake (talk) 23:39, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Power pop
I'm against the usage of power pop used as a genre here. The citation does refer to the song as power pop, but on the sidebar of the genres in that same article, it doesn't mention it at all and refers to it as "teen pop" and "dance-pop". This is especially confusing as power pop is described as "a cross between the crunching hard rock of the Who and the sweet melodicism of the Beatles and Beach Boys, with the ringing guitars of the Byrds thrown in for good measure" on the same site. . I suggest we remove it for these reasons. Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:43, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The source says that the album is teen pop and dance-pop, not the song. And that you're "against the usage of power pop" is WP:OR. Read WP:VNT. Pancake (talk) 15:48, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It's not original research if you are using terms out of context which you are and VNT is an essay. If we have articles that don't agree with what is being said in other articles, than I will stamp this article with the "Contradict-other" template. Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:51, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The threshold for inclusion on Wikipedia is still verifiability, not truth. The Allmusic article calls this a power pop song and why are you certain that's false? It has influences of synthpop, but it's still a power pop song, as per the source given. Pancake (talk) 16:01, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I have no problem with verifiability, but the one sites own discussion on the genre does not back up what is said about the song, than it should not be included. This does not even go with wikipedia's own definition of the genre power pop which would lead to me adding the "contradiction tag". Not to mention the BBC refer to it as "pop/rock" here. So which is it? Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:11, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * That's CBBC, so I'm pretty sure that review was written by a kid. Either way it's anonymous and is not to be included. Pancake (talk) 16:22, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * There is no reason not to include it. The song is for a youth audience so it's on a youth oriented site. Because you can't find a name, what dictates that an age would make it any more reliable? If it helps, Digital Spy also refers to it as pop rock source. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:32, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * What is wrong with power pop? We should edit by a WP:NPOV. If a reliable source is calling it "power pop", what's wrong then? Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 17:03, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * My problem is that calling this power pop on that site doesn't agree with the sites own definition of the genre. I've found two citations saying pop/rock instead and I believe that's better and is not against the definition we have. Why are you guys so keen on having pop/rock if I've found two reliable sources? Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:37, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 1. The singer herself says that it diverges from her usual pop rock sound. 2. The CBBC review is anonymous, anyone could have written it. It's not a reliable source. Pancake (talk) 10:38, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter what a singer says about their own song's style as we need secondary sources on wikipedia. Regardless, I've found a source that says pop/rock that is very notable. Andrzejbanas (talk) 14:32, 22 January 2012 (UTC)