Talk:Resumptive pronoun

this example Grammatical for most native English speakers: Who is the girl that your friend said that she is nice? doesn't sound grammatical to me (native english spkr) I would say "who is the girl that your said is nice"Cinnamon colbert (talk) 21:57, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Presumably, you meant to include "friend" between "your" and "said", in which case I agree. The reference's section on resumptive pronouns doesn't mention any exceptions to their ungrammaticality in English. Tomblikebomb (talk) 19:48, 11 February 2010 (UTC)


 * For me, none of the sentences 1, 4b, 4c and 6b is well-formed, that is; those are the only examples that actually involve pronouns. Are resumptive pronouns grammatical in formal written English at all? Mk270 (talk) 19:53, 23 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I suspect not, certainly none of them look right to me, with my brain switched to "formal English" mode. W. P. Uzer (talk) 22:03, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

1. Content a) Well written, however some areas are a bit dense, as they assume prior knowledge of certain concepts, such as binding theory. Sometimes has awkward wording, such as in this sentence: “A conceivable way of approaching resumptive pronouns is to say that they are syntactically of the same category as gaps or traces, and that they get the same semantic translation”. The examples that are then produced as a tree structures “This is the girl that I don’t know what she said” and “This is the camel that I think he likes Oscar”, are awkward sentences to me. Though that is perhaps a significant factor of resumptive pronouns. Presumably the individual who created the examples is a native speaker of English, and it is a great indication of critical thinking of the subject at hand, but I think the group should try, if at all possible, to think of and provide less awkwardly phrased sentences; that, or explain in further detail how and why the provided are grammatically correct.

b) This Wikipedia article seems to be quite comprehensive but could go into further detail, by elaborating a bit more on the distribution of resumptive pronouns in other languages.

c) Lacking citations in key places, for example, “There are two views regarding the existence of resumptive pronouns. Some Linguists believe that resumptive pronouns occur as a result of syntactic processing, while others believe they are the result of grammatical structure and are actually the pronunciation of a trace.” Could benefit from more citations throughout article.

d) All positions and statements are conveyed from a neutral perspective.

e) Information presented is stable.

2. Style a) The lead section of this article is not very clear and informative. Examples and further explanation of the topic would help to resolve confusion.  The lead section is written in an organized way, it just requires further definition and explanation. It relies heavily on quotes to explain the subject. It is also a bit unclear; are resumptive pronouns only used by english speakers?

b) Subheadings would be appropriate for topics involving distribution.

c) Citations are consistent in style, however, as referenced in (1c), are quite sparse throughout the article.

3. Images The images in this article are very informative and relevant to the topic.The images however do not seem to contain image copyright tags. Evidently the group has created their own examples as evidence, and it is clear on the source page where and who the images came from.

4. Length The article as a whole is a reasonable length as is in a summary style of writing. The lead section is a bit short, and could possible be combined with the overview. Could benefit from a section that went more in depth than the overview. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jleong92 (talk • contribs) 04:43, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Removing wrong example
I just removing this example, which is not correct at all for French:

French
Subject and object relatives in French introduce ‘qui’ and ‘que’ as complementizers which are coupled with the use of a resumptive pronoun. In the example below, ‘lui’ is the resumptive pronoun. 8. a) L’ âne que le cowboy lui donne à boire        The donkey that the cow-boy to-him gives to drink         'The donkey to whom the cow-boy gives some water.'

nice intro
intro sentance is nice - short and clear. I would suggest removing the parenthetical material at the end of the 1st sentance on the other hand, the paragraph about "trace" is incomprehensible; discard and start over — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cinnamon colbert (talk • contribs) 02:06, 30 March 2015 (UTC)