Talk:Rhagonycha fulva

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I see that someone recently removed an edit which referred to this beetle, Rhagonycha fulva, as the "Hogweed Bonking Beetle" on the grounds that it looked like vandalism. I can assure you that it is known as the Bonking Beetle hereabouts, at least (London Borough of Bromley). This is not the first time that name has been edited out. The name probably deserves a mention somewhere in the article, if not a prominent one. Moremoth (talk) 17:55, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It was a name popularised by some NCC entymologists in the 80s, if I recall correctly, and is now in general use across the UK. Stub Mandrel (talk) 06:34, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Plantdrew, about your move: where is the binomial name more commonly used? I've mostly seen them referred to using the vernacular name (though I haven't dug through the scientific literature, only in more accessible places). – Uanfala (talk) 02:13, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Uanfala: Ngrams doesn't pick up "common red soldier beetle" at all. What reliable sources have you seen that don't mention the scientific name? Other vernacular names include "black-tipped soldier beetle", and more colloquially, "bloodsucker beetle" and "hogweed bonking beetle". How would you determine which vernacular name is the most appropriate article title? Plantdrew (talk) 02:41, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We need RS that don't mention the scientific name? But any half-decent entomological text will invariably include it. I do see stuff like this or this (I don't know these places so I won't assume they count as RS) and they prefer the term "common red soldier beetle". How do we generally decide which name is more common though? – Uanfala (talk) 02:53, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]