Talk:Rhubarb Triangle

This article is one of the strangest and most interesting that I've ever read on wikipedia. 18.252.6.96 02:18, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * And what's more, entirely true. I came here to construct the page (at my Mother's behest), but lo and behold. I'm amazed it's survived without being challenged for deletion, to be honest. --Rob W 00:11, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Fascinating topic. Deserves a series of articles. References will prevent the article being challenged.  Good luck! PeterGrecian 14:20, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Rhubarb tale
A person says to the farmer: "What do you put on your rhubarb?" farmer replies: "Fertilizer, what do you put on yours?" answer: "Custard!"

The Three Points
I come from Ossett. I am quite sure that the three points are Wakefield, Rothwell and Morley. I shall double check this though. The article here seems to be based on the B.B.C. article, which states Leeds, Bradford and Wakefield. However, I am quite sure that Bradford is not involved. Also, I am not sure why Ossett was singled out as one of the two main rhubarb towns. Epa101 21:23, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Rightly or wrongly, an unregistered user has recently changed the three points of the triangle. I've added a 'citations' tag in the hope that the article can become more readily verifiable. As a Wikipedian, if the BBC says Leeds, Bradford and Wakefield then Leeds, Bradford and Wakefield it is; as a human being, I defer to Epa101 as (s)he comes from Ossett. For the article to be safe from deletion, however, pretty much everything needs to come with a reliable citation. Wavehunter 02:29, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Suggested expansion
My attention was caught by this:


 * Only a few decades ago, more than 90% of the world's forced rhubarb crop was grown in this small area.

The obvious thing a reader is going to think upon seeing that is: "Well, why isn't it now?" but this is not explained at all. Paul Simons in the Times makes a brief reference to the decline of cold winters, but WP's article badly needs this to be covered. Loganberry (Talk) 18:04, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Suggested Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBF40bQCd_4&NR=1

QI (BBC TV Show) 3:58 on the rhubarb triangle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seifried (talk • contribs) 05:38, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Rhubarb Triangle
The reference to the "Rhubarb Triangle" going back to the 1960s was removed, with a note that references go back to the 19th century. I was discussing specifically the phrase "rhubarb triangle", and can find no references earlier than the 1960s. Rhubarb may well have been grown in the areas earlier, but I can't find a references suggesting that the concept of a "rhubarb triangle" existed before then. --Iantresman (talk) 17:20, 6 November 2011 (UTC)


 * You wrote, "References to the "rhubarb triangle" extend back to the 1960s: − :"...in pre-war days "rhubarb specials" used to run from the West Riding rhubarb triangle to London..." which is not what you say above. It is actually very misleading. Your Original Research as to the first mention of the term isn't supported by a mention in a textbook, which suggests to me the term was already in use and as it doesn't say it's the first mention it's not verifiable.--J3Mrs (talk) 18:19, 6 November 2011 (UTC)


 * The article gives the impression that the "rhubarb triangle" extends back to Victorian times. No dispute that rhubarb was grown in the region then, but not as the "rhubarb triangle". I have no sources that suggest that the phrase extends back before the 1960s, and perhaps is a modern invention. The earliest source listed by the Oxford English Dictionary is to a 7 Feb 1986 article in the Guardian, which supports the idea that "rhubarb triangle" is a modern invention. It seems indeed that "References to the 'rhubarb triangle' extend back to (only) the 1960s. --Iantresman (talk) 20:20, 6 November 2011 (UTC)


 * So that can't be right either.--J3Mrs (talk) 20:48, 6 November 2011 (UTC)


 * It is a verifiable fact that the OED give the earliest use of "rhubarb triangle" as 1986, and also a fact that there are references to it as early as 1965. That is not original research, it's not my data. We're not incapable of describing those facts. --Iantresman (talk) 22:33, 6 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I've reworded the text regarding the phrase "rhubarb triangle" and its origin. I think it is all accurate, and sourced. --Iantresman (talk) 15:19, 10 November 2011 (UTC)


 * My father was the son of a Yorkshire coalminer and studied geography at University College Oxford either side of WW2. He wrote his thesis on "The Rhubarb Triangle" which suggests the term pre dates the 1960s.  I intend to visit the Bodleian one day to read it.

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