Talk:Rienz

Move request

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The current name of the article, "Rienz-Rienza", is a combination of the German name ("Rienz") and the Italian name ("Rienza"). This type of bilingual naming was found to be undesirable in a survey at Talk:Communes of South Tyrol, see also Naming conventions (geographic names). The three most plausible options are listed below, please cast your votes. Markussep 17:38, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Add "* Support" or "* Oppose" followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~

Rienz
 * Support. Large German speaking majority (see census data below). No clear preference for either name in English usage. Markussep 18:09, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support--Martin Se 12:39, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support--PhJ 18:07, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support Gryffindor  19:52, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support Tridentinus 10:35, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Rienza
 * Weak oppose. Better than the bilingual version. Markussep 18:09, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak support as now somewhat more common than Rienz.Septentrionalis PMAnderson 01:47, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * strong oppose--Martin Se
 * Oppose--PhJ 18:07, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Rienz-Rienza (current name)
 * Oppose. Markussep 18:09, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Not a name, a weak and unstable sompromise. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 01:47, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose, either of the other two are fine. Olessi 19:44, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak support better than Rienza--Martin Se 12:39, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * neutral--PhJ 18:07, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support Gryffindor  19:52, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Discussion
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This is the census I referred to:. The Rienz flows through Toblach (86% German), Niederdorf, Italy (93%), Welsberg-Taisten (96%), Olang (97%), Bruneck (83%), St. Lorenzen (97%), Kiens (97%), Vintl (98%), Mühlbach, Italy (95%), Rodeneck (100%) and Brixen (73%). Some English use statistics:
 * Google Scholar:
 * Rienz river 10
 * Rienza river 19
 * Google (only English language, .org, -wikipedia):
 * Rienz river 34
 * Rienza river 18 Markussep 18:09, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

One reason I haven't !voted is that these data are so flawed. Almost all of the Google hits for Rienz are either from German text or from 19th century sources, like Henry van Dyke; and the results for Rienza are almost as bad. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 01:44, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree that these English usage data are too limited to indicate a preference. Like for the municipalities, I would prefer taking the name in the local majority language name, which would be "Rienz". Markussep 07:36, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Olessi 19:44, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Google Books:
 * Rienz river: 3
 * Rienza river: 5
 * river Rienz: 15
 * river Rienza: 3


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the . Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 11:47, 8 April 2007 (UTC)