Talk:Ron Gonzales

Balance, please
Surely there is an undue focus on negative things about Mr Gonzales? I'm not saying remove them, but can we please have a more balanced article? I'm adding an NPOV tag until this is fleshed out. The man's entire life is not his legal woes. Surely he has had some further successes - he did achieve office and was an executive at HP, after all! - Ta bu shi da yu 12:05, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree that this article seems somewhat one-sided. The information is accurate as far as it goes, but but there is much more to Mr. Gonzales' history than his current legal troubles.--Estiveo 17:28, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I have researched and found some other career/political/awards that would help round out the article. It may still need more information. I found it hard to find his awards/innovations etc as most of the searches about now turn up the recent events. I also arranged the the censure/arrest to reflect more of a time line so not to fully over shadow his political career.TalkAbout 22:09, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

It seems this investigation into the "NorCal secret labor negotiations' situation has not gone deep enough. Why would anybody tell NorCal they had to hire a different labor union than the one they had and pay higher wages?  Why would NorCal have gone along with this?  Would they have been frightened that one labor union wasn't good enough?  Was another one better for them?  It seems eerily close that Vice Mayor Cindy Chavez, a former Labor Negotiator, has not been brought in to this contoversy any more than what has been disclosed.  Doesn't anybody besides me see a correlation here?

The article has been referred to in newspaper article
Or an opinion piece or whatever, here. I seem to recall that there's some template that's supposed to be added to this talk page in this event, but I don't recall what it is. --Aquillion 00:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Mountaindew700
Please discuss all your proposed edits.ThanksTalkAbout 02:26, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Ron Gonzales is not one of the first hispanic mayors of a major city in the United States. His equally adultering predecessor, Henry Cisneros, was elected mayor of San Antonio, Texas in 1981. Check the Wikipedia article about him and his election career is there. He is also not the first latino mayor in California - there have been many in Southern California cities over the last 25 years.

Federico Peña was elected to the Colorado House of Representatives as a Democrat in 1979, where he rose to become Minority Leader. In 1983, Peña defeated a 14-year incumbent, William H. McNichols, Jr. to become the first Hispanic Mayor of Denver, a post to which he was re-elected in 1987. He later became Transportation Secretary under the Clinton Administration. He, too, ended up divorced from his wife, three children later, and married a news reporter - just like the current mayor of Los Angeles. Check the Wikipedia article about Federico and about Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa.

City Hall and the Martin Luther King Library
No discussion of Ron Gonzales is complete without acknowledging his role in bringing a new city hall to downtown San Jose. The goal was to revitalize the city and bring suburbanites to city center. This was Gonzales's dream and he worked very closely with the renown architect Richard Meier, designer of the new Getty Museum in Los Angeles. It was a leap of faith to invest so heavily in this idea. Each step of the way, the mayor worked the design along with Meier. This project was not without its critics, largely because of the cost and, in some cases, because people thought Ron had no business trying to be an architect. The end result really sets San Jose apart and is artistically dynamic. It must be seen both day and night as light shows are reflected on the glass dome, a replica of the one in Sacramento. Outdoor art down a side street links city hall with the new Martin Luther King Library, shared by San Jose State and the City of San Jose. Both buildings are to the credit of the leadership of Ron Gonzales. 7continentKaren 19:30, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

RFC re. BLP balance, unsourced and inaccurate derogatory information
Per BLP there's a balance problem, with too much negative information, much of it poorly sourced. I'm putting out a request for commentary, then I or preferably someone else really needs to clean this article up or else stubbify it. Wikidemo 14:14, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Comment
Most of the article is about the Norcal scandal, indictment, arrest, and trial, on a matter that turns out not to be a crime at all as per the judge's dismissal of the case. Nowhere is it even mentioned that the whole case was a novel and very aggressive legal theory, or that the charges were all dropped. The whole Norcal thing should be condensed to a single section of a paragraph or two that gets to the heart of exactly what happened in the first place, and how it spun out into charges for a crime that does not exist. Not a single one of the "criticism" items passes the test for inclusion. They're either trivial/irrelevant, not a controversy, or well within the normal range of political partisanship in the office of mayor. It also fails as a biography because it has so little biographical information about who the man is, where he comes from, and what happened in his career - it's a stub with a bunch of derogatory information attached.Wikidemo 14:14, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I have gone ahead and cleaned up the article's worst POV issues and weak writing and removed the clean-up tags. It still needs more relevant background and encyclopedic material.Wikidemo (talk) 20:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Restoring deleted information
In 2009, an IP deleted the entire section, after it had been cleaned up as discussed above. I have just restored that material. It still needs work, just as the rest of the article needs more substance.--Hjal (talk) 02:49, 25 November 2011 (UTC)