Talk:Royal Norwegian Air Force

Looking for colleague
I am looking for a Norwegian fighter pilot (My coursemate) at Reece AFB or Luke AFB in the US in 1960. His name was Od Gilbo. My name is Zaman Khan and I was with him doing fighter training. my email is: onehappyman@gmail.com and I am in Spain.

Little Norway history
Little Norway was established first at Toronto,the first traininng took place with thed help of Toronto Flying Club at Downsview Airport fall of 1940, before the facilities at Toronto Island Air Port became avaiable later in 1940. The camp was named Little Norway, and was located behind the Maple Leaf stadium at the beginning of Bathurst Street and the West Channel, where the cable ferry to the Island Airport was and still is located,(the cable is gone, but the ferry is still there). In 1942 the training moved the Muskoka Airfield, 250 km north of Toronto, where all training was made and the name Little Norway was then used. In the end of 1944 the training was moved to Winkleigh in England. To my knowledge the Little Norway was NEVER used for Camp Borden, where maybe a few, very few Norwegian were trained. Lars E. Lindgren, last president 451 Norwegian Wing RCAFA.

F-5 Freedom Fighter
The F-5 is no longer in active use, and shouldn't be listed as one of the fighter planes in use. I believe none of the F-5s are even flying anymore. I heard this from an RNoAF pilot. --Reddox (talk) 15:02, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Numbers of operational aircraft
I don't think we should have the ambition to track the number of air planes operational in the Norwegian air force at any given time. If we were to acertain that information accurately it would probably be classified. If not it would be guesswork, original research and most likely unsourced. The Hercules transport planes are undergoing a modernisation programme and new are to be purchased so that number will vary a great deal. The Norwegian defence issues an information pamphlet once a year where these numbers are given. We should use these numbers and settle for updating once a year or if good sources are found in the mean time.Inge 18:34, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

The Norwegian Government has recently instituted a process of rapid procurement of new C-130s after rust was discovered on the precent fleet. The official sources say that the RNoAF has 6 Hercules' operational, so I think we should go with that for now.Manxruler 10:30, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Squadron numbers
I'm a bit confused about the squadron-numbers linked to Bodø AFB. I served with the 331/334sqd in 1999, and I can't remember any 332sqd of F-16 fighters there. Also, I can verify that RNoAF operates atleast A, B and C model F-16s from actually having worked on them. I don't remember if I worked on any D-models since there aren't that many two-seaters in the RNoAF in the first place. Bishamon79 18:43, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

332 sqd was moved from Rygge MAS to Bodø MAS after you worked there - I know, because they tried to send me up there along with them. And your memory is playing a trick on you - RNoAF has no Cs nor Ds, but rather F16AM and F16BM (A and B Midlife update - ie; the avionics and such are updated to be the same as in late model (block 50) Cs and Ds. WegianWarrior 07:10, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Historie
Tok meg den frihet å slette utsagnet om at hvis P-36 flyene på Kjeller hadde vært operasjonelle, da skulle tøskern fått bank, da. Noen som er svært uenig i dette? Er det noen mening i å komme opp med hvissåfremtifall-utsagn, især når man vet at P-36 fly var håpløst utdatert i en dogfightrolle allerede da de først ble produsert. baetterdoe 19:57, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi. No I don't particularly disagree with removing that sentence. It was not very good in this context. What-ifs rarely are. Still, your conclusion that the P-36s wouldn't have mattered is very weak, consider that the only fighter cover the Germans brought with them on 9 April was Bf 110s, these were much less capable than even the P-36s (nor did the Germans field more than at most a dozen in the Oslo area on the first day of the invasion), remember that the Gloster Gladiators of the Jagervingen did shoot down two of the Bf 110s for the loss of one of their own number. So that doesn't really hold well, if you understand what I'm trying to say. I agree with the removal, not with your dismissal of the value of the P-36s. Oh, and one more thing: This is the English language Wikipedia, if you want to edit in Norwegian, do it at --Manxruler 05:59, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Furthermore, what your decidedly pessimistic "analysis" of the "dogfighterrolle" qualities of the P-36 totally lacks is an understanding/knowledge of the actual tactical situation of the German aircraft attacking the Oslo region. They were almost out of fuel. The Bf 110s that landed on Fornebu airport 9 April were at the time flying on gas fumes. One does not need much understanding of basic air warfare principles to see that the German fighters did not have the fuel reserves to dogfight P-36s, or even a number of Gloster Gladiators larger than the seven they actually met. The section will be resurrected at a later time, in an improved version. --Manxruler 01:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

NH90 / Lynx
The NH90 is still yet to come (delivery has been delayed). And when all have arrived, the Lynx will be removed from service. i therefore don't think both helicopters should be in the infobox, and that the NH90 has to go - until they actually are delivered :-) (and yes, i am norwegian too) Yosh3000 23:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

- there is actually a NH90 helicopter in service though, I believe it's used for testing new equipment and training personnel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.18.65.222 (talk) 20:22, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

RAF-RNoAF-rank-crewing-WWII query
Hello. With apologies for the x-posting to a couple of Talk pages, if you're knowledgeable on this subject could you please have a very quick look at Talk:Finn Varde Jespersen and see if you can help with either of my small queries there? No big deal but would be nice. Thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 09:36, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

I NEED HELP IN OSLO RE. THE ROYAL NORWEGIAN AIR FORCE'S HARALD ALFRED HANSEN
I badly need the dates of birth/death for HARALD ALFRED HANSEN of the Royal Norwegian Air Force, who married EVA ROSALIE PACKER, nee HALL in London in 1943; any suggestions please? Martin 2.27.132.226 (talk) 16:20, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

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F-52
Didn't the Norwegian air force just adopted the F-52 fighter jet? Shouldn't that be added to the page?

ThirstySexpert (talk) 15:49, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Never heard of the F-52. - BilCat (talk) 18:26, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * It was the POTUS misspeaking during the press conference. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2018/01/11/trump-lauded-delivery-of-f-52s-to-norway-the-planes-only-exist-in-call-of-duty/?utm_term=.6ac445e77b79 Garuda28 (talk) 18:44, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Ah, that explains it. I figured it was something like that. - BilCat (talk) 18:47, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh so it's not a fighterized B-52 - Cheers FOX 52 (talk) 20:54, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

F-16. Official government sources
The F-16 is no longer in active service: https://www.forsvaret.no/en/news/articles/f-35-qra F-35 takes over QRA mission from F-16 (2022-01-06): "I 1980, Norway started operating its fleet of F-16s, and this fleet has now retired."

Up to 12 aircraft later in 2022, but needs approval from the American and Norwegian authorities (see below).
 * The sale to Draken International: https://www.fma.no/aktuelt-og-media/2020/norge-selger-et-mindre-antall-f-16-til-draken-international and https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/norge-selger-et-mindre-antall-f-16-til-draken-international/id2890530/ (both in Norwegian only).

"Through a letter signed by the chiefs of the two Chambers of the Romanian Parliament, sent on Monday, 20 December, the Romanian Parliament approved the acquisition of 32 Norwegian F-16 fighter jets."
 * The sale to Romania: https://www.fma.no/aktuelt-og-media/2020/romania-onsker-a-kjope-norske-f-16 (scroll down for the english version) :

"A resale of the F-16 requires third-party approval from the US authorities and for export, as in this case, an export license from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is also required. There is thus strict control over who can receive the Norwegian F-16 aircraft. According to the plan, the first aircraft will be delivered in 2023 and the last aircraft will be delivered during 2024. For the remaining aircraft that cannot be sold, an overall assessment will be made regarding the possibilities for exhibition at a museum or other purposes. Here, too, approval from the American and Norwegian authorities will be required."

Yosh3000 (talk) 15:24, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

1st Nation to Operate Only Stealth Fighters
I'd suggest a line to cover Norway being the first nation to operate solely stealth fighters, the F-35, with its completed retirement of F-16s in 2022, if everyone active on this page thinks that suitable? This seems significant as part of Norway's modernization of its armed forces plan. Qcomplex5 (talk) 12:41, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

I've added to history of 21st century RNoF, 2022s, this note with reference to Jane's. Unless there are any objections? Qcomplex5 (talk) 12:55, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If you can provide a reference explicitly stating that Norway was the first nation to operate solely F-35 stealth fighters, I won't object to its inclusion. However, the addition you made to the article, based on https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/norway-retires-f-16-as-f-35-takes-on-national-air-defence, only mentions the retirement of the F-16 and its replacement by the F-35 starting in 2022. Since this information is already included in the article, it's likely to be removed as it duplicates existing content. Ckfasdf (talk) 13:47, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If the following reference would be considered appropriate?
 * https://www.wearethemighty.com/featured/norway-is-the-first-country-in-the-world-to-have-a-pure-stealth-fighter-fleet/ Qcomplex5 (talk) 15:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Alright, that should be OK and I've readded that information to the article. Ckfasdf (talk) 21:13, 2 May 2024 (UTC)