Talk:Ruben I

Modern Decendant
Should we write about the fact that he is Elizabeth 2's forefather?

Here are a simple family tree:

Ruben I, Prince of Armenia

Constantine I, Prince of Armenia

Unamed daughter, married to Gabriel of Melitene

Morphia of Melitene

Alice of Antioch

Constance of Antioch

Agnes of Antioch

Andrew II of Hungary

Violant of Hungary

Isabella of Aragon

Philip IV of France

Isabella of France

Edward III of England

Lionel of Antwerp, Duke of Clarence

Philippa of Ulster

Roger Mortimer, Earl of March

Anne Mortimer

Richard Plantagenet, Duke of York

Edward IV of England

Elizabeth of York

Margaret Tudor

James V of Scotland

Mary I of Scotland

James I of England

Elizabeth of Bohemia

Sophia of the Palatinate

George I of Great Britain

George II of Great Britain

Frederick, Prince of Wales

George III of the United Kingdom

Prince Edward Augustus

Victoria of the United Kingdom

Edward VII of the United Kingdom

George V of the United Kingdom

George VI of the United Kingdom

Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.116.219.82 (talk) 10:55, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Why? Thousands of people will probably descends from him, so why add one person in particular. Pevernagie (talk) 11:01, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Because she is queen of United Kingdom, she is notable —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.116.219.82 (talk) 12:11, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * As are numerous of the descendants of Electress Sophia, are you planning on adding them as well, because you cannot just add one and leave the rest out. Pevernagie (talk) 17:31, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * We could write that all modern royal houses in Europe are descendant of the prince. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.116.219.82 (talk) 18:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * But do you have proof of that, because there are a lot of royal houses, and it could be that one or two for some reason did not marry with any of his descendants. Pevernagie (talk) 19:28, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Look at this: Line_of_succession_to_the_British_throne everyone there are descendants of Sophia of Hanover, so we can at least write that the Royal Houses of Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Greece, The Netherlands, Romania, Spain, Belgium, Luxembourg, Bulgaria and the United Kingdom are all descendant from the Prince. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.116.219.82 (talk) 21:31, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Very well, I have no objections to that. Pevernagie (talk) 15:39, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

The 'consensus' mentioned in the statement below refers to a single book and what is more, the work does not include or mention the results of a review of scholarship regarding the subject of Roupen I's ancestry. 'The consensus appears to be that the Roupenians were the descendant of the Bagratids, and Roupen was a relative of the last Bagratid king, Gagik II.[1]' Therefore, please include a reference that specifically mentions the findings of a scholarly review or rephrase to better express the single book-reference by including the author's name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.122.68 (talk) 22:17, 20 May 2010 (UTC)