Talk:Russel L. Honoré

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Russel or Russell[edit]

I've seen both spellings.

--RobbieFal 21:40, 3 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • I saw Russel (one L) on television. I have yet to see two Ls. --AStanhope 09:20, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

African American?[edit]

I'd like to know the source for the African American paragraph.129.252.234.61 06:21, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

he's part African alright[edit]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Russel+L.+Honor%C3%A9+african

But if Russel is a full blood African American than I'm an Alien.

"African-American Creole",[edit]

Does anyone have a link to a page where Honore's actuly calls himself a "African-American Creole"

Have we got the right picture?[edit]

Could anyone please check where the picture on Gen. Honore's article came from? I have seen him on CNN, and he certainly doesn't look like the guy in our photo. Basically, our guy looks white, while Gen. Honore DOES look African-American.

Also, here's the article where Gen. Honore's is said to call himself a "Louisiana Creole African-American".

Trujaman

Colours are not what they seem in Louisiana[edit]

If you are questioning whether Gen Russel Honoré is black because of a picture than you are in for a big surprise if you have not seen many Creoles. I am a little offended that people would call him a "Raging Cajun" because Cajun and Creole have been confused for many years and he is NOT Cajun at all. In Louisiana, we tend to see the Cajuns as really country and sometimes racist people. As for him being African American many Creoles tend to claim they are. My grandparents are Creoles and are actually much more lighter than General Honoré...In Louisiana especially in those French cultural background areas the coulour of the skin less defines the culture of the person. Honoré (yes my name is Honoré too)

The fact of the matter is that many people just do not know their our family history or background. "Americans" are the only people on Earth that associate skin color with race i.e. Black, White, Spanish (when they should say Hispanic ot Latino) etc.. I am an Honore', fathers parents (Creole-grandfather/German-grandmother) & my mothers parents (African-American or Black, of African origin) I look just like Russel (my cousin) and I get "are you Hispanic?" or people speak spanish to me all the time. People I work with everyday think I am Puerto Rican. So just know that a lack of understanding people, their culture may place you in an embarrasing moment one day. Oh by the way I consider myself an "American" with a dash of everything that would make a spicy gumbo good..

You, Sir or Ma'am, have obviously never, ever, traveled outside of your safe American bubble while serving your country overseas or even as a mere tourist in another country if you think even for a second that the US is more racist then any other country in the world. Even in bleeding heart liberal Europe, racism is alive and well and in many cases institutionalized by racist laws and regulations. I have seen it with my own eyes and my minority friends have experienced it. Get some education and travel a bit before you beat down and turn away from the bosom of your own country. Veriss (talk) 05:09, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Have to agree with Veriss. The all-encompassing claim "Americans" are the only people on Earth that associate skin color with race" simply smacks of ignorance & a person who believes whatever he reads or hears from others as being the honest truth. Over 13 years in the military, 3 conflicts, I have visited my fair share of other countries. I have seen every continent except ONE ... that being Africa, although I would love to & fully intend to within a few years. (Yes, I've spent time in Antarctica also, ironically the ONLY place where I saw almost NO racism or sexism, although well-mixed in comparison to most other specific locales. But granted my time & areas of visit were limited.) There are MANY non-American countries where skin color determines your place in society. Some of them do this in a way which would make American-style racism look very tame. And most telling, a few of those countries are the very ones often cited as most "color friendly" by ones who do not personally know the exact situations there ... a group which quite obviously includes yourself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.159.69.146 (talk) 10:20, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ethnicity[edit]

"French, American Indian and Spanish" are those his words or is some just writing what most creoles are?

His odd habit[edit]

I think there should be some mention of his habit of ending sentences with "Over", whenever he's talking to the press.--Kross | Talk 11:11, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Having just watched the General quite a bit on CNN during Gustav coverage over the past few days, I was reminded of his signature "Over" end of many/most sentences. Came to his article rather expecting to see it; surprised not to see mention. --68.173.2.68 (talk) 23:39, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That "habit", is a reflection of a military man accustomed to years of communicating over poor comms links with long delays. "Over" is a standard military communications term taught in the first week of radio-telephone operators training and to all military personnel who may use radios that indicates that the speaker has finished their statement and is ready for the other party to respond. Those interviews in question may have been conducted over satellite relays which are notorious for long delays which can result in both parties "stepping" on each other due to the delays of transmission during a discussion. His use of "over" during those satellite interviews is natural of all military personnel and anyone thinking it is a nervous tick or habit is indicative of the complainant having never served in or having been associated with operational military personnel. Veriss (talk) 05:20, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Source for the watch / calendar quote[edit]

I've heard attributed to him a quote that goes something like "You're looking at your calendar and I'm looking at my watch!" which was used to motivate those he perceived as laggardly. Can't find a good source for it.

It's a colorful quote that might shed some light on his character. Would be cool to include it.

BradDixon (talk) 19:34, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He says it. He is point is that he is thinking long term and the person who is looking at the watch is being short sited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.79.15.162 (talk) 08:52, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Details on Bronze Star?[edit]

I'm going to look for some, as a Bronze Star for heroism or bravery is, I believe, the 4th highest such award in the US military, and the details would be worth noting in the article. If anyone has details already, that would be great. Gnarlyhotep (talk) 22:01, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Photos in uniform show him displaying the ribbon for it, so the entry for the award must be correct. The best thing is if we can find the citation for it. Seth1066(talk)108.44.209.54 (talk) 18:25, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What are you doing?[edit]

Hey, Sbowers3, I'm kind of mystified. You reverted most of the edits I worked so hard on yesterday and deleted some other material. You spoke of reverting a "good faith edit" of 1/7, but there weren't any changes made that day. You spoke of restoring lost material, but you caused a lot of what I thought were improvements to become lost. I was going to just revert your whole edit, but there are some miscellaneous changes you made which I need to study to make sure I don't mess up anything that should be preserved.

Can we talk? Please leave a note here and maybe we can work together and produce a better page.

DutchmanInDisguise (talk) 00:24, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The edit of 7 January removed about 1400 bytes - a large chunk of the section about Katrina. This what I saw yesterday:

Most recently, Honoré served as Commander, Standing d commander of Joint Task Force Katrina responsible for coordinating military relief efforts for Hurricane Katrina-affected areas across the Gulf Coast. Honore's arrival in New Orleans came after what was widely believed to be a poor performance by the [[Federal credit on this -- he sent one John Wayne dude

Look at that first line "Commander, Standing d commander" and then "poor performance by the [[Federal credit on this". Those phrases make no sense and indicated that something had been messed up. I looked back through the recent history and found the edit that messed it up. I would like to have simply undone that one edit but other edits had been made to that same section. I thought it was important to fix the big mess even at the expense of the smaller good edits. I'll take a closer look to see if I can fix it more cleanly. Sbowers3 (talk) 17:25, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it looks fine now. Thank you Sbowers3! I was gonna tackle it myself today, but you beat me to it. I should have caught those boo-boos you mention while I was blundering around fixing a few links. DutchmanInDisguise (talk) 20:06, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This comment is INCORRECT. MG Honore' Commanded the Standing Joint Force Headquarter for Homeland Security in Norfolk Va from 2002 to 2004. That HQ was the first organization established post 9-11 focused entirely on military support to civil authorities in response to a natural or manmade disaster. It laid the ground work for the establishment of USNORTHCOM in Colorado Springs, CO. In 2004 LTG Honore assumed command of the US First Army in Atlanta GA. At the time First Army had a dual mission. First Army was the proponent for training, readiness and mobilization of all National Guard and Reserve forces east of the Mississippi and in it's Homeland Defense and security role to be the Federal lead for any disaster response and mitigation east of the Mississippi if Federal troops were requested by the civil authorities. US First Army tracked Hurricane Katrina and all such storms as they left the African Coast and conducted constant analysis of projected paths and the threats they posed. Under LTG Honore First Army had adapted the practice of postioning a response HQ in preparation for a natural disaster, something that had not been done before. When Katrina came ashore in the mouth of the Mississippi, First Army HQ's was stood up and aligning assets in anticipation of request for support from State authorities. The President and Federal govt had conducted first ever VTC's with the states in an effort to be prepared for a major storm and federal assets were pre-positioned, many to close to the storm. When Katrina had moved inland LTG Honore and his foward HQ began making the trip to Mississippi which was the most heavily effected. They had to clear roads and navigate aroudn obstacles and eventually established the HQ at Camp Shelby MS. WHile he was driving to the affected area, in which the weather was too bad for helicopters to operate, the State of LA and MS requested Federal assistance, and the President established Joint Task Force Katrina with LTG Honore in command of the affected areas of Mississippi and LA. He immeadiately began directing efforts and mobilizing assets to rescue those who were in danger and save lives. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.79.15.162 (talk) 09:22, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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