Talk:Russell Grant

Date of birth
I've just corrected his birth year from 1952 to 1951. I can only find sources giving '51 as his birth year. And I distinctly remember him saying he was 55 when he appeared on Loose Women (not that I'm a fan of it or anything) back in March. 16:12, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

On Jan 3 2010 in Wales On Sunday interview with Darren Devine it is reported that he is 48. The date given in the article is 1951, meaning that the a rticle is claimimg he is nearly 70. In 2006 the BBC reported he was 54.,

I was at Fulwood Barracks, Preston in 1962 and frequented a nearby hostelry, The Sumners Hotel, where Russel Grant appeared regularly as a singer. This would suggest that he was at least 18 then, although, my wife who was then my girlfriend believes that he was as old or older than me and I was 23 at the time. I think he was born 1941 not 1951.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/north_west/4602204.stm

The definitive book on British counties?
Source on that characterisation, please? Alai 06:49, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Durham
Geoffrey Durham is not Russell Grant's brother!

Mr Middlesex
Any sources for this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.243.69 (talk) 23:56, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

The Lord of Ashford in Middlesex
I presume that's a manorial title, and not a peerage? Morwen 15:45, Apr 17, 2004 (UTC)

The article suggested that Russell was "donated" this title. However:

"On hearing that this ancient title was about to leave Britain to an overseas owner for an amount of money said to be £75,000 Russell decided to act"

http://www.russellgranttravelclub.com/content/lord.htm

We need a source for this as Wikipedia states "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion"

The same is true for "He succeeded Sir John Betjeman as Patron of Roots: County Conservation"

Personal life details
Please ensure sources clearly back up statements in the personal life section. On reviewing sources I found no evidence for several claims made in this section and have trimmed it back accordingly. Fæ (talk) 15:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

DS
Why no mention of his top selling, critically acclaimed and groundbreaking Nintendo DS game? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.150.45.236 (talk) 10:05, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Which game would that be? Is that info from a reliable source?  Can we verify it?  Thanks!    —  Jeff G.  ツ  00:29, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Allegations of incorrect information by the people at 78.105.169.216, Russellsangel, and Dvbuk1
Those people should see Contact us/Article problem/Factual error (from subject). —  Jeff G. ツ  15:33, 15 September 2010 (UTC)


 * While we're here, I should point out that the text added (supposedly by his business manager) in this edit is copyvio'd from a number of places, including http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/horoscopes/biog.html. I can't find sources for all of it, though, but I have my suspicions about it. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 04:22, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

BLP take care
Stripped back to a skeleton bio IAW BLP. The previous text was junk and puffery. Stick to facts -- its a BLP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PaulFagburg (talk • contribs) 04:24, September 16, 2010


 * The poster was a sock of Jeffrey Vernon Merkey and has been blocked indefinitely.   —  Jeff G.  ツ  00:24, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Protected
I've protected this article due to heavy vandalism, potential socking and just general chaos. This is a biography of a living person, and we have strict rules to follow on it. Now as I've reported earlier there is a considerable amount of text that was taken from a copyrighted source, which is entirely unacceptable. As such, I've reverted this article back to a smaller version that is better sourced. There are still issues here (for example, ref 1 - the web.researcha.com and ref 4 - response source) that need to be taken care of, but in the meantime, maybe we can actually discuss some of these edits rather than just yelling over each other. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 04:40, 16 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you.   —  Jeff G.  ツ  00:27, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Another round of edits
I'm inclined to again reject the edits made by. A lot of the text on there, while sourced, is trivial and largely unimportant. This isn't the place to glorify Grant, and we don't need to mention every time he was on TV. And text like "remembered for his multicolour sweaters and smocks" is just unencyclopedic. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 23:17, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I would prefer if you removed / changed the bits you don't like rather than rejecting everything just because you think I have written too much. Wikipeida is about multiple contributions. The subject is Russell Grant and I don't feel I was glorifying him, just presenting a summary of his career. Currently the article has almost nothing about the subject - I don't know why everything about him gets deleted, it is one of the worst biographies I have read. People arriving on the page are just told about his "Pet Psychic" service and driven straight to his website and premium rate phone lines where Wikipeida is supposed to be an encyclopaedia. His work in the 80s is probably number one in importance because it what people recognise him for and got his fame from - the breakfast TV and shows like Star Choice (TV series) and The Zodiac Game. Nearly every newspaper article about him mentions the sweaters he used as part of his image, so I put it in the article, if you don't think it is relevant remove it. Shooting Stars, Stars in their Eyes, Celebrity Mastermind etc. pages all link here so I don't see the problem in mentioning his appearances on shows like these. Despite you saying "there is a lot of text on there" compared to other biographies of similar recognised personalities I think the article is short and I would be in favour of his background stuff getting brought back. --Holkingers (talk) 00:23, 28 September 2010 (UTC)