Talk:SEPTA Route 15

PCC cars
These trolley models date back to the 1950's, for they're called, PCC which stands for "President Conference Committee". PCCs have been around since WWI, which, unfortunately, the last surviving WWI cars were destroyed in a fire in Philadelphia on Christmas Eve in the Woodland Depot. What happened to the PCCs in Philadelphia was that they have been shipped off to San Francisco and its Railway in the 1980s, and departured by saying, "Goodbye Philadelphia" and came back with, "Hello Philadelphia" which is ironic. Some stayed behind at warehouses, broken and torn on the insides and waiting to be destroyed completely. Route 15 is the only surviving route from the PCC era to the PCCII era. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 205.147.242.4 (talk &bull; contribs).
 * this section was inserted into the article, and well it really didnt seem to fit, so i moved it to the discussion, as it seems more in the line of a comment. I didnt re-write, as i can say i am not entierly sure of the relevance of the information put forth in the comment with the article. It also a bit confusing. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 06:18, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I like the Route 15 PCC service. Your comments are interesting.--DThomsen8 (talk) 17:50, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Notes on recent contribution
The assessment of the route 15 trolley, as quoted below, is not sufficiently supported by the provided references, which don't all lead to relevant information. And there is no reference provided for the point made about ridership levels. I corrected the points made with regard to "mismanaged maintenance." Both references describes track (or other work) on a small section of the trolley line and this is not unusual for the SEPTA trolley lines. There is no information to suggest that the restored trolleys themselves are breaking down.

Here is the original text:

Controversy continues to surround daily operations of the trolley line.[9] Shuttle busses have replaced inoperable trolleys more often than not due to alleged mismanaged maintenance on the fully restored trolleys.[10][11] In addition, the trolley has not generated new ridership since its reopening, a point of contention for supporters of resumed R3 Elwyn-Wawa and R8 Fox Chase-Newtown regional rail service in suburban areas lacking alternate public transport. The question of proper usage of public funds ($100 million = no new ridership) has been brought to SEPTA's attention during the summer of 2009 when trolley breakdowns occurred on a regular basis.[12]

Arborday (talk) 00:59, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

this section (2005 return to trolley) was further improved today to provide some balance to what seemed to be an slightly biased, and not well-sourced section

Arborday (talk) 06:30, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

---Yeah, I don't think this is neutral. What exactly does the R8 have to do with the #15 trolley?--- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.149.17.2 (talk) 16:35, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

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Sugarhouse Casino extension
The extension of trolley tracks from Girard Avenue along Frankford Avenue to Columbus Boulevard, to serve the SugarHouse Casino should be mentioned here with appropriate inline citations. --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:53, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Rail replacement
As of February, 2012, trolley operation is suspended while rails are being replaced on Girard Avenue east of 8th Street. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:28, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Patec removed
I have no dog in this fight, but I removed some on sequitur sentence dealing with PATEC (whatever that is) as it was a non sequitu, reeked of editorializing, and was not encyclopedic in nature. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.115.252.178 (talk) 06:47, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

BS-table?
Why here not a BS-table? Thanks for an answer Bob l´éponge (talk) 16:21, 25 June 2012 (UTC)