Talk:Saiga semi-automatic rifle

comments
Good job, Weepy, but IMO, some of the info, like cleaning, seems too informal and out of place in an encyclopedia.

Bolt hold open
Article says that the bolt does not stay open after last shot. This is not true. While it is true that removal of the magazine will release the bolt (defeating the whole point of a bolt hold open) nevertheless bolt stays open on last shot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.205.10.0 (talk) 06:57, 6 October 2010 (UTC)


 * The article is correct in that the bolt does not stay open after the last shot. The "bolt hold open" device on the Saiga line of rifles must be engaged manually using a small lever located on the right-hand side of the receiver, above the trigger location.  It does not engage automatically.  Source:  I own a Saiga chambered for 5.45x39.


 * As far as I know, the only AK pattern rifles that do incorporate a "bolt hold open" after the last shot do so by using a certain type of magazine. The action is not a feature of the rifle itself but of the type of magazine that is used.  70.119.53.63 (talk) 09:29, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Hey thanks for the advice, I appreciate any criticisms and help that would make this article better. Weepy89 (talk) 21:42, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

comments
A good start. I found the infobox for weapons, and you'll need to fill that out more. I did what I could, but there isn't enough info in the article to complete the specifications (and there should be). You need a section or subsection that clearly differentiates the changes between the combat rifle and the sporter version. I have no idea what the list at the end is for. Grammatically, this needs to improve somewhat. I'm going to add this to the list on the military history project, to see if someone will give you an assist. Auntieruth55 (talk) 00:26, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The "See Also" section should be removed if at all possible; it tends to hold articles back the higher up the chain they climb. TomStar81 (Talk) 09:19, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The sources are raggedy and not properly formatted; print sources would really be better for this piece. The prose needs a lot of work.  Factually, it is not bad, though.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 18:20, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Peer Review
It seems like you did a good job with your information, but there were a little glitchy spots in the description and Operation section. I would suggest trying to reword some sentences to give the section more sentence variety in the Operation section. Also, you should go through your wiki links and ensure they direct to the page you want them to because a few were not going to places intended. For example, barrel I think you want to link to [gun barrel|barrel]]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mzwhiz21 (talk • contribs) 14:11, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Statement that AK magazines do not work is not entirely true
For Saiga rifles chambered in 7.62x39, a magazine designed for an AK-47 and not a Saiga rifle will not fully engage due to the thickness of the material used on the magazine catch of the Saiga rifle. However, an AK-74 style magazine, such as the steel ones used on Polish Tantal rifles, and Bulgarian synthetic magazines, fit and engage just fine on Saiga rifles chambered in 5.45x39. 70.119.53.63 (talk) 09:34, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Additionally, Saiga rifles chambered in 7.62x39, 5.45x39, and .223, will function and have the ability to chamber and remove a round (although possibly not reliably, though results vary) using non-Saiga magazines (such as ones made for the AK-47 and AK-74 series of rifles) AND without the use of a bullet-guide, which is not a feature of the Saiga rifle as this feature was built into the design of the Saiga magazine. A common issue associated with using non-Saiga magazines in a Saiga rifle without an aftermarket bullet-guide installed is a failure-to-feed the last round of the magazine, with the other 29 rounds (if we're talking about a 30 round magazine) cycling in an acceptable manner.

Therefore, stating that the Saiga line of rifles cannot function without a bullet-guide or without a Saiga-specific magazine is wrong. Due to this, I modified the wording of the article to state that the rifle may not function reliably, instead of using will not function reliably which seems to denote that all Saiga rifles behave the same 70.119.53.63 (talk) 05:02, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Caliber
Can we shoot 5.56 nato cartridge on saiga 223 Rem rifle ??? 203.135.45.46 (talk) 01:48, 10 December 2021 (UTC)