Talk:Samara

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Soyuz spacecraft is produced by RKK Energiya in Korolevo, Moscow region, not in Samara. --Avitek 05:54, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Progress cargo ship is produced in Samara —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.238.139.226 (talk) 00:03, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Kuybyshev or Kuibyshev?
Google says: 34,800 for Kuybyshev, 154,000 for Kuibyshev. --Yms 07:23, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * All Russian translits are per WP:RUS. Google hits are not always a reliable indicator of transliteration used by Anglophones.  See also discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Cyrillic).&mdash;Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) 14:08, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * К-у-й-б-ы-ш-е-в -> K-u-i-b-y-sh-e-v
 * In transliteration, "i" stands for "и" and "й". "й" is the short "и"
 * "y" is rather for "ы" but neither "y" nor "i" sounds like "ы"
 * Kuibyshev is better because it shows the difference between "i" and "y" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.26.232.227 (talk) 00:33, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Our guidelines are built on a variety of factors, but personal preferences (like the one you describe above) have no play in it. Multiple systems of romanization of Russian exist; we happen to standardize on one that does not match the one you prefer.  Thanks for taking time to comment anyway.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 6, 2010; 22:01 (UTC)

Second Baku
There's a redirect from Second Baku here. However, the article says nothing about why Samara is called so. Can it be explained? --Tone 17:36, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Means mixture of languages used in town before 1918. See below. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.114.204.159 (talk) 18:42, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

It's redirected because of dumb people. Samara region is only the small part of so called Second Baku the huge oil-and-gas bearing basin. First Baku is located on Caucasus, second - Volga-Ural region, third - Western Siberia. See this page of Russian Wikipedia for explanation -. --95.79.134.36 (talk) 19:24, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I cannot read Russian but thank you for your info. The former advisor to the UK Prime-Minister Boris Johnson, Dominic Cummings, had spent 3 years in Samara during the Yeltsin years. The story was that he was supposed to get an airline going from Samara to Vienna, but of course nobody believed that cover story. Now it is clearer what attracted him to Samara, i.e. possible oil business. 2001:8003:A070:7F00:1C1F:4556:76AA:758C (talk) 04:07, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Samara
According to the OFFICIAL Imperial Russian statistics Samara had on 1 / 14, 1913 95.500 inhabitants, not more. Stavropol nearby (which was renamed later after Italian Communist Party leader to Togliatti) was older than Samara and Volga looked totally different than today. Syzran on the other side of Volga had its population only 45.500. Town was mixed with different languages, Russian, Tatar, Deutsch, Moksha, Erza, Chuvass, and even Kalmuk languages. The town was a centre of business carried out by mainly the Volga Deutsch, invated to Russia by Empress Catherine the Great. My mother´s mother visited in Samara during spring 1920 on her journey from Petrograd to Orenburg to collect the harvest there to the Petrograd Bolshevik City Committee. Town had an European part and Oriental outlook. The first railway bridge, 1435 metre long, named Aleksander Bridge, was the first bridge built over Volga in 1887 - 1890. The Torgovaja was more Oriental Bazaar, than typical Russian market place. In 1888 completed "Schauspielhaus" (photo) had 1.120 places. In 1920 Samara was hit by Cholera famine as all the middle and southern Volga area.

In 1902 the following describtion by unknown traveller was published in one of the St.Petersburger newspaper; "Samara defies describtion. Its best streets are paved, others are welter of mud. This is the typical provincial town with houses ranging from dilapidated wooden structures to fine public and business offices and private residences in addition to 24 Greek churches. The town had grain elevators, flourmills, a brewery, tallow, soap, leather, and tobacco factories. Samara soap was only the second in fme after Kazan soap in whole Russian Empire.

At the foot of a steep hill the great grey Volga flows past Samara. A paddle steamer looking like a row of two-story houses lay at a wharf piled high with goods... sacks of corn and flour, thousands of wooden cases, cart wheels... all asking urgently to be taken south before frost bocked the long waterway."

Volga flows for some distance along the edge of ridge, at its foot, in a west-to-east direction, and finally breaks through the "Samara Gates". West of the gates, however, there are traces of an older pre-glacial valley, between Simbirsk and Syzran, along which the river flowed until, probably, the last inter-glacial period. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.114.204.159 (talk) 18:10, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

"Stavropol nearby... was older than Samara and Volga" - it's untruth. Samara was established in 1586, Stavropol(-upon-Volga) in 1737. And what do you mean said "Volga"? The river?

"Town was mixed with different languages, Russian, Tatar, Deutsch, Moksha, Erza, Chuvass, and even Kalmuk languages." - The last Kalmuk people were removed in 1842 by emperor Nicolas I to Lower Volga land (see - ), it's present-day Kalmykia.

"The town was a centre of business carried out by mainly the Volga Deutsch, invated to Russia by Empress Catherine the Great." - What makes you declare this? It's untruth. There were numerous firms of russian businessman.

"The first railway bridge, 1435 metre long, named Aleksander Bridge, was the first bridge built over Volga in 1887 - 1890." - It concerns with Syzran not Samara. --95.79.134.36 (talk) 19:24, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Foreign Embassies
The German invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941 prompted the evacuation east to Kuybyshev (today Samara) of foreign embassies. (Taken from the official US Embassy Site: http://moscow.usembassy.gov/ministers-and-ambassadors.html, US Ambassador in 1939-41 Laurence A. Steinhardt) 85.26.232.105 (talk) 02:18, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Boris Johnson's, the British Prime Minister's chief adviser, Dominic Cummings, spent 3 years in Samara during the chaotic Yeltsin Years. Nobody ever knew what he wanted in Russia, given that his explanation to create an air service from Samara to Vienna sounded like a cover story. He might have assumed to find something from the time of the temporary capital, or treasure. 2001:8003:A070:7F00:D5D4:11F2:7C7A:6080 (talk) 07:13, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

needs demographic breakdown
How many ethnic Russians, Tatars, etc.?

What about religious breakdown for the city? —Preceding unsigned comment added by HammerFilmFan (talk • contribs) 14:41, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

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Timeline of Samara, Russia
What is missing from the city timeline? Please add relevant content. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 11:20, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Religious freedom?!
Who added this section? It sounds half like official russian propaganda and half corrected by someone: on the one hand it entitles Jehovah's Witnesses as a "totalitarian sect" (without link to the corresponding article), and on the other hand it calls this banning as persecution. The title of this subsection and the choice of words should be reviewed and cleaned from biased connotations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.184.205.177 (talk) 16:28, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It's me who has marked JW as a totalitarian sect, since this definition is official in Russia. Ivan the Knight (talk) 13:07, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Climate
May be a pedantic point here, but the article says that in really hot summers the temperature easily climbs to 40 degrees (Celsius). Well no it doesn't if the record high temperature is 39.9^C (still very hot of course). Meltingpot (talk) 10:35, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I've removed the sentence. It's unsourced, and since it contradicts the table (which is sourced), there is no point of keeping it. Thanks for catching this!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 3, 2016 ; 13:15 (UTC)

Thanks, and you're welcome. Meltingpot (talk) 12:20, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

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– Russia's 6th-largest city appears to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The rivers are not referenced as simply "Samara". &mdash;Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 06:33, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Samara, Russia → Samara
 * Samara → Samara (disambiguation)


 * Support Rather obvious primary topic. --T*U (talk) 07:02, 9 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. —  AjaxSmack  02:35, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment - Here are this year's stats not including anything related to geography of Russia. Compare to last year's. Seems that the most popular is the city of Russia. Nevertheless, some other pages, like Samara (fruit), are also viewed decently. --George Ho (talk) 19:40, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Clear primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:23, 14 August 2017 (UTC)


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this article needs cleanup/sources BADLY
Samara is an important topic. Yet, there is a whole section unreferenced - where someone inserted a link to a website for a museum tossed at the end - this is NOT per guidelines. There is no section on demographics. Some SME's should do some major clean-ups here! 50.111.22.143 (talk) 11:50, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

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