Talk:Same-sex marriage in Ontario

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I know I probably missed something when I attempted to repair the vandalism, so if you know what is missing, please re-add it. Spinboy 19:53, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Isn't there a lot more to say? It seems worth telling the whole story of Brent Hawkes and the 14 January 2001 marriages he conducted, and the subsequent court cases validating them? The Halpern et al. v. Canada court ruling on 10 June 2003 didn't make same-sex marriage legal, it recognized that it had been legal all along, and the original ceremony was valid.

This all makes the date as of which same-sex marriage became legal in Ontario a bit complicated, and worthy of explanation. It was settled as legal on 10 June 2003, but it was not previously illegal, either.


 * I think it's worth mentioning. --[[Image:Ottawa flag.png|20px]] Spinboy 03:23, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

I noticed that a user added an external link entitled "Why Same Sex Marriage Should Be Allowed". It was removed, but re-added again, and has not been removed to this point. What does everybody think about this material? While it is biased, the public has a right to read the material, and it is indeed on-topic. I looked at the link, and it leads to a webpage with a very structured debate over the benefits of same-sex marriage being allowed. I think that this link should stay. What are the opinions of everybody else? --Matt0401 02:55, 11 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I think it's worthy of inclusion. Links are allowed to be biased, and it adds to the article. Ardenn 02:59, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Is rainbow Canada flag better? Should provincial/territorial flags be reinserted?
On April 11, 2006, NTK replaced the Canadian flag in the "Gay rights in Canada" template with a rainbow version of the Canadian flag.

He also deleted the provincial/territorial flag from each provincial/territorial article.

What are your views on that?

Since this is only one of the articles affected, please give your comments at this central location: Template talk:GR-C

Wuzzy 03:40, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Useful link: Who's on first?
There are a few claimants for "first legally married same-sex couple in Canada". Xtra has a story about it that's a good reference.

There was at least one couple who were the same sex and legally married before all this: Linda Fraser and Georgie Scott of Nanaimo B.C., who were married in 1997, before Georgie's MTF sex change in 1999. They are well known due to being the subjects of the documentary "Two Brides and a Scalpel", but I doubt that's the only case of a married person having a legal sex change.

The first legal marriages performed in recent times were those by Brent Hawkes on 14 January 2001 (Banns called 10, 17 and 24 December, 2000). They were registered on 11 June 2003.

--Well, there's room to debate the legality there, since Hawkes violated the requirement that neither of the participants are supposed to have previously been married in order to be eligible for the banns. Lsibley 02:24, 11 May 2007 (UTC)--

The first same-sex marriage performed and registered was Paula Barrero and Blanca Mejias, two women married by banns by Rev Dr Cheri DiNovo at Emmanuel Howard Park United Church in Toronto on 24 September 2001 and registered that same year, apparently because the clerk did not notice the sex of the participants.

The first same-sex marriage license was "the Michalels" Leshner and Stark, co-plaintiffs in the Halpern v. Canada suit, who did the entire process the day of the court decision, 10 June 2003.

Just some facts to merge into the article at some point... 06:49, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Bill 167, Bill 45, Bill 5
I was surprised not to see anything about 1994's Bill 45 (An Act to amend the Human Rights Code with respect to Sexual Orientation, Tim Murphy's private member's bill) and Bill 167 (the government's bill called An Act to amend Ontario Statutes to provide for the equal treatment of persons in spousal relationships and/or Equality Rights Statute Law Amendment Act, 1994) in here, each early (probably first) attempts to legislate same-sex spousal rights (using the term "spouse") in Ontario. Although 167 failed (and I assume 45 also failed) both are certainly significant. Just read back through Hansard to see what was said. I was actually hoping to find an external link to records of vote history on these bills, but I think Ontario online records only go back to 1995, so the 1994 votes wouldn't necessarily be available (at least, from there).

1999's Bill 5, An Act to amend certain statutes because of the Supreme Court of Canada decision in M. v. H. is available at 24.57.239.43 (talk) 02:46, 9 June 2011 (UTC)