Talk:Sand art and play

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Perhaps we should have a general article on sand art or sand play and move this article there. There's no need to focus purely on "castles", I reckon. On the other hand, I think playing with sand is a silly title - sorry Patrick! :) Martin 23:47, 24 Aug 2003 (UTC)


 * Perhaps Sand art and play? - Patrick 08:23, 25 Aug 2003 (UTC)


 * Yep, that'd work :) Martin
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Image improvement
The first image has the towers cut off. Someone want to rebuild it and get some larger pictures? (SEWilco 09:27, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC))

Burying people
What about burying people? That has to be my most memorable memory (huh?) of the beach. Almost every time my family goes to the beach, I end up getting buried.


 * I added that, please add more, if you like.--Patrick 02:45, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Picture
It may or may not be my web browser... but is the image on the left obscuring the text? I am unsure of how to fix this.

yes it obscures the text in my browser too Joey Eads 06:03, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

World's tallest Contradicts itself
In the first paragraph of the article, it says: "The world's tallest sandcastle was built on Myrtle Beach in South Carolina as part of the 2007 Sun Fun Festival. The structure was 49.55 feet high." but then later in the "World's Tallest Sandcastle" section it says "...a 29.5 foot sandcastle in Falmouth, Maine. Expected to be completed late summer of 2007 is a sandcastle that, if all goes well, will be the new record for world's tallest sandcastle." These two statements contradict one another and they can't both be true. Either an error needs to be corrected, or some additional clarification needs to be made. 71.195.221.204 04:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Sculptures
This artical needs to cover Sand Sculptures such as the works of Fred Darrington and Mark Anderson http://www.sculpturesinsand.com/gallery.html

They are famouse for their work in Weymouth England 172.200.238.252 19:07, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Sand_art_and_play
The Origins section has been recently added by an anonymous IP, see here and here (two different IPs, but I would suggest it's the same person).

This stuff is unreferenced and sounds like speculation at best, but likely intentional misinformation/vandalism. I have added 'citation needed' tags to it, but will delete the whole section in about a week unless someone can add some verification. --jjron (talk) 16:06, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Considering the kind of edit made by that guy, like here for the first IP, I think it's mere vandalism and that those edits should be removed. And I definitely don't see Neanderthals making sandcastles for fun in the Arabian peninsula, especially knowing that they didn't live there (see there). Any look to articles Neanderthals and castle should be enough to prove these contributions are rubbish. Funny rubbish for sure, but rubbish all the same. Akela NDE (talk) 19:27, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. Have deleted section per above (deleted text included below). --jjron (talk) 15:25, 9 August 2009 (UTC) Origins. The earliest sand castles were created by Neanderthals who got bored by constant hunting on the Arabian peninsula. Early modern humans improved on these ideas by wetting the sand before use. As modern humans spread throughout the world, the idea of the sand castle followed.(Citation needed|date=July 2009|reason=This paragraph needs some verification, sounds like speculation at best) During the Middle Ages in Europe, engineers planning to build real castles, first modeled them in sand. This proved a great contributor to castles, as an unknown engineer building on the beach created the moat when a tide washed up and he had a ditch around it from digging.(Citation needed|date=July 2009|reason=This paragraph needs some verification, sounds like speculation at best) The first actual competition for sand castle building was held in 1224 by some Teutonic Knights taking a break from the wars. The judge of this competition was Marquis Matthew III.(Citation needed|date=July 2009|reason=As above: this whole section sounds like guesswork or intentional nonsense - have left note on talkpage)


 * Permalink to edit above to remove nonsense text here. --jjron (talk) 15:28, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

File:Sandsculpting, Frankston, Vic jjron, 21.01.2009.jpg to appear as POTD soon
Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Sandsculpting, Frankston, Vic jjron, 21.01.2009.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on February 18, 2011. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2011-02-18. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :) Thanks!  howcheng  {chat} 22:44, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Something on how they make them so detailed?
I am in awe of the dino one and the Near Eastern Islamic Period palace, words cannot describe the epicness, but is there anything about what methods they actually used to make these pieces? TheArchaeologist 06:25, 18 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Check out this guide from The Guardian -- tips for building sandcastles.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 19:45, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Neutrality of "Professional sand sculpting companies" Section
This section seems to be written more like advertisement for sand art companies than being about sand art companies. 142.167.144.67 (talk) 22:48, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I removed the list of specific companies, since there is the danger of it getting longer and longer as people show up and add their favorite company to the list. If it felt that a specific company be cited, it should be notable and have a reference. --Marjaliisa (talk) 02:46, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Festivals and competitions section
Needs cleanup and possibly an update regarding the world record. Armigo (talk) 21:10, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Possible external link
Check out these sand art creations.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 19:33, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Largest Sand Castle Error
In the introduction of the article, it says that the largest sand castle was 18 feet tall. (I imagine there have been some taller, but that's beside the point I'd like to make.) The paragraph then describes the castle as consisting of only "one ton of sand and 10 litres of water." A cubic yard (3' x 3' x 3') of sand weighs more than a ton. Even dry sand is anywhere between 1.1 and 1.3 tons, and so I find it hard to believe that an 18-foot sand castle would take less than one cubic yard to create...

See these external links (or any other building material supplier's page) for verification of weights. .

How the sculptor could get less than a cubic yard of sand to stand 18 feet tall is beyond me. 3' x 0.5' x 18'???? Defies the imagination, doesn't it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matatigre36 (talk • contribs) 00:00, 14 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Unsigned makes a valid observation above. --Ratha K (talk) 08:01, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Festivals and competitions
This section badly needs a rewrite and better (more neutral) sources. I hope someone with more exposure to sand art will undertake the task. --Ratha K (talk) 08:00, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Possible article split
I think sandcastles are more than notable enough for them to be their own separate article, and there's lots of room for expansion. We have separate articles for snowmen and snow sculpture so I think the same should apply here. Pladica (talk) 19:19, 9 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I agree wholeheartedly with unsigned above, and with the preexisting example of snowmen and snow sculpture, I think it's an open and shut case.Xx78900 (talk) 22:48, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Woops, forgot to sign my original post. That should be fixed now. Sorry for not noticing earlier. I will wait for more input before splitting. Pladica (talk) 21:57, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Sand art is a DAB page with 5 entries; this page and 4 others. Narky Blert (talk) 13:59, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I believe you are mistaken, my intent is not to split that article, but this article (Sand art and play) into "Sand art" and "Sandcastle". If you oppose splitting because the dab page already has the name Sand art, that issue can easily be resolved by renaming it to Sand art (Disambiguation) Pladica (talk) 21:57, 8 February 2021 (UTC)