Talk:Sansi people

Sansi ancestry of Maharaja Ranjit Singh
ranjit singh ruled over punjab he was born in khiali gujranwala,western punjab now in pakistan.in western punjab there were 12 villiges named after sansis.still three of them are known as noshehra sansi,theri sansi,and mian sansi.sansis were the originators or real natives of pakistan's 7th big city gujranwala.still sansis are the most of the population of the gujranwala.some well known sansis ofgujranwala are Jamshed sansi advocate.zaigham sansi advocate.khalid zafar sansi a reknowned political figer of Pakistani Punjab Please note following secondary source references from very reputable authors, including Sikh scholars like Fauja Singh, Sangat Singh and Sher Singh Sher (International Professor of Sikhism) have been added to corroborate Sansi ancestry and origin of Maharaja Ranjit Singh. Please don't let this reference be deleted by the groups who want to claim Ranjit Singh as their own by subverting or suppressing textual soruces of history. More references are also available but I think the following are enough for the purpose of this article. If you have doubts please discuss it here. Thanks.

''^ The Sansis of Punjab; a Gypsy and De-notified Tribe of Rajput Origin, Maharaja Ranjit Singh- The Most Glorious Sansi, pp 13, By Sher Singh, 1926-, Published by, 1965, Original from the University of Michigan

^ Tribalism in India, pp 160, By Kamaladevi Chattopadhyaya, Edition: illustrated, Published by Vikas, 1978, Original from the University of Michigan

^ Sociological Bulletin,pp 97, By Indian Sociological Society, Published by Indian Sociological Society., 1952

^ Indian Librarian edited by Sant Ram Bhatia,pp 220, Published by, 1964Item notes: v.19-21 1964-67, Original from the University of Michigan

^ The Sikhs in History, pp 92, By Sangat Singh, Edition: 2, Published by S. Singh, 1995, Original from the University of Michigan

^ Some Aspects of State and Society Under Ranjit Singh, pp 5 By Fauja Singh, Published by Master Publishers, 1981, Original from the University of Michigan''

--Internet Scholar (talk) 01:58, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Ranjit Singh as a 'Sansi Jat' : References do not support the view
Another editor made an unsubstantiated claim about Ranjit Singh that his clan was unrelated to nomadic Sansis. This is not a view that has any support in the quoted references which are from very reputable sources. All the references are unambiguous about Ranjit Singh belonging to the nomadic Sansi tribe.

Although, Griffin acknowledges the existence of "Sansi Jat" group, he also adds the following with regard to his connection with the Sansi tribe, which is distinct from Jats:



"The Sindhanwalias claim, like most other Sikhs, a Rajput descent, but they have also a close connection with the thievish and degraded tribe of Sansis, after which their ancesteral home, Raja Sansi, five miles from the city of Amritsar is named."


 * Reference: Ranjit Singh and the Sikh Barrier Between Our Growing Empire and Central Asia,pp 153, By L. Griffin, Published by Asian Educational Services, 2004, ISBN 8120619188, 9788120619180, 223 pages. Note: "thievish and degraded tribe of Sansis" remark should be understood in the context of colonial perception of Sansi tribe.

Further to this is the research published by Prof. Sher Singh Sher, establishing Sansi & Rajput ancestry of Maharaja's family. Sher Singh Sher had established in reputed journals that Ranjit Singh was a Sansi and that Sansi tribe itself is of Rajput origin. '''Refer to pages 10 and 13 of The Sansis of Punjab; a Gypsy and De-notified Tribe of Rajput Origin, By Sher Singh, 1926-Published by, 1965, Original from the University of Michigan, Digitized 2 Aug 2007. CHAPTER TWO MAHARAJA RANJIT— SINGH THE MOST GLORIOUS SANSI establishes Ranjit Singh's Sansi and Rajput ancestry'''.

--Internet Scholar (talk) 17:46, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Sir Lepel Griffin on Ranjit Singh's ancestry
"...and from Sansi the Sindhanwalias and the Sansis have a common descent. The Sansis were the theivish and degraded tribe [sic] and the house of Sindhanwalia naturally feeling ashamed of its Sansi name invented a romantic story to account for it. But the relationship between the nobles and the beggars, does not seem the less certain and if history of Maharaja Ranjit Singh is attentively considered it will appear that much his policy and many of his actions had the true Sansi complexion"

Source: Sir Lepel Griffin, Punjab Chiefs, Vol. 1, p 219 --130.101.152.55 (talk) 21:58, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

"Sarbhangi" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Sarbhangi and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 16 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. signed,Rosguill talk 17:34, 16 May 2022 (UTC)