Talk:Santiago de Compostela

History began in the 9th century?
- and the 9th century is is in the Middle Ages? "The city's Cathedral is the destination today, as it has been throughout history, of the important 9th century medieval pilgrimage route," Please fix this confusion.--Hugh7 (talk) 09:51, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

The botafumeiro
There's no mention of it... 136.145.192.75 18:46, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

References, books, links
This article seems to have many many people who want to post external links, books, travel guides etc. I am not sure at what point we say we have enough.--Filll 15:09, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I have removed some of these today again. This article is like a cruft magnet.--Filll 14:10, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Stub
This article is definitely a stub for such an important subject. Totally missing history, main sights, transportation etc. --Attilios 09:04, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It is quite attrocious. Particularly the history I think is quite important. This supposedly was the site of a preChristian pagan pilgrimmage. There are all kinds of interesting stories about the period when the Moors dominated Spain and their activities in this area. The claim of this location as a putative burial site of St. James is also quite interesting, as well as the development of the pilgrimmage business. It is astounding that these more interesting aspects are not present, particularly in an encyclopedia. It should not just rehash the fact that this is the terminus of a pilgrimmage route, and provide a link farm to every commercial interest that comes along with something to peddle, but provide some deeper encyclopedic insight into this fascinating city.--Filll 14:14, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Just checking with other Wikipedia versions of this article in other languages, I find that this article is around 6-7 KB, the German version is 15KB, the Spanish version is 22 KB and the French version is 28 KB. We have some catching up to do.--Filll 14:41, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry but who is St James? evidence? studies please? That location was always known as Iacopo - jacob, jago, etc the etymology is rather straight forward. how about someone explain in some logical manner how we get St James from Jacob? because that's the only source possible for the switch.  Its quite amusing on the actual wiki, they jump from all the Jacob references to suddenly with no explanation we get St James, amateur night in Dixie is an understatement. Does anyone here actually understand "etymology"? Coldcall (talk) 18:51, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Actually most of the articles in different languages just rehash stuff that has already present in either the Way of St. James or Cathedral of Santiago de Compostela. &#39;&#39;&#91;&#91;User:Kitia&#124;Kitia&#39;&#39;]] 21:24, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

How do you get "St James" from any of the following names Jacob, Iacovo, Iacopo etc? These names can all be seen on a myriad of old maps. There is no St James on any of these maps. Can the brilliant editor who thinks Jacob is synonymous with James please explain how he arrives at that conclusion? On the wiki entry it reads like someone is claiming night is day.Coldcall (talk) 12:16, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Latin name
I read that the Latin name was Campus Stellae (field of stars)? is this correct? yes it is

Coordinates
The coordinates currently listed in the side box for this article are:

Coordinates : 42°52′57.06″N 8°32′28.70″W

While those coordinates do land you within the town, most people coming to this article are probably trying to find the cathedral. I would suggest that the coordinates be changed to

Coordinates : 42°52′52.78″N 8°32′42.88″W

Which lands you in the crossing of the cathedral.

Interestingly, since it is one of the few buildings in town without a red tile roof and its roof is the same color as the surrounding pavement, it is actually on of the few cathedrals that was a bit of a challenge to find. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.76.170.113 (talk) 17:11, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Recent change from Spanish to Galician
Do we really want to favor Galician over Spanish? I can imagine might having both in one or two places, but it strikes me as a very bad idea to change all instances of Spanish to Galician here.--Filll (talk) 03:14, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I think we should use the English name as much as possible, I can see the use of Spanish (ie Castillian) as that is used worldwide to promote the way; also in the English speaking word. I would not favour the inclusion of a local language be it Basque, Catalonian or Galician; or other languages (French, German) as none of these are in broad use outside their own language area. Arnoutf (talk) 17:28, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

I think I agree.--Filll (talk) 18:16, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

I do not. Those are official languages in their areas, and we have the same situation in articles like the Edinburgh one (Scots: Edinburgh/Embra/Emburrie) (Gaelic:Dùn Èideann ) or even the Mumbai one (formerly called Bombay).

Gaelic and Scot are not exactly widely used outside their areas...

212.163.172.180 (talk) 11:19, 9 March 2010 (UTC) Leirus 212.163.172.180 (talk) 11:19, 9 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I also think that Galician should be used instead of Castillian. It is an official language, and to choose Castillian would be to undermine the cultural and legal importance of Galician in the region. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wq0msh (talk • contribs) 16:11, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

The flag
Has Santiago a flag? Im from Galicia and I didnt knew it. --213.60.88.213 (talk) 14:15, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Surprise!. Seriously, most of the cities have one, but no one seems to know them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.163.172.180 (talk) 08:57, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

The sea shell
Please explain the sea shell insignia. there is a photo of it but no information on it's relevancy as the symbol of the pilgrimage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.92.14.172 (talk) 09:14, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

In the Christian faith the belief is that Jesus anointed the head of the fisherman James, with a shell he picks up from the shore of Galalee. The small scallop or pectin thus becomes the emblem of the followers of Christ. Europeans who wished to visit the Holy Land often also visited Santiago de Compostela, which was considered an important place of pilgrimage for Christians who often wore the shell like a badge. The scallop shell thus appears on the coats of arms of some families indicating that they have been "on the pilgrims trail". That's what I was told but I'm not a Christian or an expert and I could be in error so maybe a scholar can elaborate. In good faith. AMM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.100.94 (talk) 21:30, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Muslim discrimination?
"Christian persecution of Spain's Muslims, following the fall of the Moorish state in 1492, echoes into present time, with local residents evincing antipathy towards those who are visibly Muslim"

I do not know where this affirmation comes from, and without a cite, also... I think it should be removed.

There's a reason why Spanish govt has opened a programme which more or less allows any Cefaria Jews automatic citizenship ...they say "welcome home, we missed you". leaving aside the twee pr, that really should spell it out. The persecution was primarily against Jews, like the (Oretain-Germani) Visgots did before Musa comes and sorts out the racists once again, centuries before oretani, rtnw...ring any bells? This whole page is one big falsehood. I'll correct it in upcoming papers but i will use Wikis absolutely monstrous distortion of history as a the example to beat to death. you have been warned. Coldcall (talk) 18:59, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Sister Cities
"the name of Santiago as a city in the Dominican Republic is questionable?" how can that be questionable is the 2nd largest city in the country and it got a heraldic coat of arms from the spanish crown in 1508 that stament is just ridiculous — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.34.212.164 (talk) 05:55, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

212.163.172.180 (talk) 11:14, 9 March 2010 (UTC) Leirus 212.163.172.180 (talk) 11:14, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Rotating Photos
I find the rotating series of photographs initially distracting and ultimately annoying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.86.3.19 (talk) 22:45, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Fully agree. Worse, there are no captions describing the frames. If I knew the city any better, I'd replace it with a gallery. Any takers? cm&#610;&#671;ee&#2927;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#160;&#814;&#1583;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#8201;&#2669; 11:25, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Even a single frame is better than the gif versions. I've changed them.  Oreo Priest  talk 21:31, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Two questions
In editing this article, I've run across two questions I have not been able to find that answer to either by looking through related WP pages or by searching Google Books: (1) Which Pope/s acknowledged Alfonso and Asturias? and, (2) When exactly did Compostela become capital of Galicia? Thanks, Aristophanes 68   (talk)  02:33, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

They were visiting a place that was far away from them so they went to visit the place they wanted to go to
They wanted to go to the ocean beach it’s the best they said 2600:8806:2207:100:9C79:60E3:9515:9EC9 (talk) 23:12, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Disputed map
I have added Disputed map to the section #Way of St. James as it incorrectly depicts Austria instead of Slovenia and Croatia on the right. If the map depicts the subject matter of this article fine, it may perhaps be cropped; otherwise, please replace it with another map. --TadejM my talk 12:35, 24 January 2023 (UTC)