Talk:Sarah Palin/Archive 62

Any good reason?
There should be very good reasons for a gazillion mass deletions. Can anyone explain what they might be? Yes, this is about the chance that Palin might have had many well known and well documented things to say about death panels. Is this incorrect, and if so, why?

Specifically, are there any reliable sources proving that Palin only appeared to promote the death panel story for months, and proof that Palin (in television and print interviews in addition to her facebook page) and her spokeswoman were part of this conspiracy? If so, provide reliable evidence that Palin didn't really make extreme attempts to promote the death panel story, but only made many public statements about this to fool people. Till such evidence is found, the death panel story is highly relevant to Palin.

Also, provide reliable evidence that the death panel story only appears to be very well documented by TIME, ABC News, PolitiFact and many other sources deemed to be reliable by Wikipedia. Provide evidence that these apparent sources are part of some kind of vast conspiracy, if this can be done. If all the mass deletions were justifiable, this should be easy. Till then, the death panel story is well-documented and well-known.

In addition, provide reliable proof that Palin's statements about death panels merely appear to be well-known and notable. Provide proof that opinion polls claiming that 80 percent heard of death panels, and that 30 to 40 percent claimed to believe in death panels, were fabricated somehow, by what appear to be major news organizations. Until then, accept that the death panel story is well-known and notable, in that so many people noted it.

Provide evidence that a few short links, with all details (controversial and otherwise) through links to other articles, mentioned near the end, is undue.

Provide evidence that Palins statements about death panels are more out of date than the large amount of material about her career as mayor and governor.

Reliable proof of the above should be very easy for editors here. After all, why would people keep mass-deleting for no good reason? I'm sure there's a very good justification for all this, so kindly set me straight and point out my error. I'll be the first to admit that these editors are right, and I'm wrong, as soon as they point out what I'm missing here. Until then, could all concerned be more honest than emotional about this?

Is it understood as to why mass-deleters, at the very least, haven't given any reasons for many mass-deletions up until now? For a long time, these editors wanted to represent Palin as never having said a single word about death panels. Now they want to represent her as having only said two cryptic words about it, alleging that no hint at what they mean is allowed. Try to understand why the fact, logic and reason to this is difficult to percieve.Jimmuldrow (talk) 14:30, 1 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, my my, you finally decided to join the discussion. Instead of making false accusations, why don't you start by answering my question. The senrtence you want in here is complete jibberish. The rest of it reads fine. Explain what it's suppose to mean. I see no reason to have links without context. Please join the discussion and do not go against established consensus. Try to convince us instead of edit warring or claiming ownership. If you cannot or will not provide that context, then the sentence will get deleted per WP:NONSENSE and WP:CONSENSUS. Zaereth (talk) 16:19, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Palin's move in elementary school
I've noticed that one important source used here for her career notes as follows:


 * ''Just blocks from the shopping plazas, thick pine forests rise on all sides. Many residents live in the wooded outskirts, including Palin and her family, who own a large cedar-shingled house with picture windows overlooking Lake Lucille and her husband's red-and-white float plane.


 * Palin, whose family moved to Wasilla from nearby Eager River when she was 8, stood out from an early age. As a teenager, she shot rabbits and willow ptarmigan, the state bird, said Curt Menard, a friend who took Palin on hunting trips with his sons. "Her dad is such a great hunter, and he had great skills, and she took to it like a duck to water," Menard said.

It was a question for some time whether or not the family moved from Idaho to Wasilla. Apparently, that's not our case.

I don't have an account and this article is protected, so if anybody good at writing could add that, please do. 75.5.12.91 (talk) 07:38, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I've since made the requested changes. Such provides more information on Palin's early life. I also managed to find a source detailing her three siblings. Estheroliver (talk) 01:45, 9 October 2010 (UTC)